Windows Networking Problem

tilki

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I just built two PCs that are exactly the same, and installed Level One NICs that are 10/100 capable with Win98. The problem is in one PC I see the computer itself in the network neighbourhood, and in the other one it cannot even see itself, let alone the other one. In both computers, NetBEUI and IPX/SPX are installed. Any expert ideas as to what may be the problem?
 

Poontos

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Install "File and Printer Sharing" and make sure TCP/IP is in there.
 

dirtboy

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Actually, if you want to share with Netbeui, just install file and print sharing. You don't need tcp/ip.
 

tilki

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Actually, file and printer sharing is already installed. What else may be the problem?
 

mjquilly

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Make sure you have Microsoft client installed and that the work group name is the same on both PC's for it.
 

Namba

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TCP/IP should always be installed. Netbeui should never be installed, it's a real network clogger and all around slowdown (your nethood will only open after much flashlight-waving). IPX/SPX should only be installed if you want to play lan games that require it.

Make sure you have the Microsoft Networking client installed, as well as File and Print sharing for Microsoft Networks installed. Put both computers in the same workgroup with different names, and give them different IP addresses on the same subnet.

That's all there is to it.
 

ktwebb

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NetBEUI has zero overhead and does not clog a small network at all. In fact, it is much faster than TCP/IP on small networks. TCP/IP is needed if you are going to share an internet connection, but to share files, NetBEUI is fine, depending on the situation, preferable.
 

spencer

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Both computers need the exact same workgroup name and their own unique computer name.
 

Russ

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tilki,

On the one that can't see itself, have you gone in to drive properties and set up the share?

Russ, NCNE
 

Tooteyman

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i've had this problem and sometimes i can fix it by going into client for microsoft network and clicking "quick connect". make sure both have this option chosen.
 

AQ

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I have a problem with my setup too. I have two computers with win98se installed on both machines. They both have windows client, Netbeui and TCP/IP protocols installed. The transfer speed from one to the other seems to be alot faster than from the other one over. I mean it takes a lot time to even do see what's on the hard disk on the other computer. What is the problem? Can anyone help?
 

pylorns

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OK, after running mixed networks etc, i know some of your problems. Win98 and network cards sometimes have problems seeing eachother in the network. The best thing to do is leave the computer up that can see itself in the network, or rather leave the one that can see the rest of the network - if this applies, then reboot the other. Goto network neighborhood, refresh several times.. over the course of say 5 min. Another thing, if you have a lan connection and you are using internet as well, sometimes it helps to make sure your tcp/ip settings are similar.

Windows 95 has more problems with seeing other computers on a network than 98. I've seen sometimes when i boot up my win2k box, and then my windows me box, they dont see eachother, i leave the win2k box up and reboot the other and this solves the problem.

I also have a 98se box that originally had windows 95 on it, None of the computers in my network can see it, but it can see every other one. I belive this to be some confilicts with installing 98 on top of 98. The best way to have a network work properly is to have a single OS network, not a mixed network and make sure that each OS matches- win98 se, and win98 have been known to have problems.

Hope this gives a little insight.
 

pylorns

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in reference to my middle paragraph, it should be installing win98 on top of win95.

- pctechs dont proofread
 

tilki

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Well guys, everything you suggested, I have already done, but my problem turned out to be due to cable. The shop that sold me the network cards gave me the wrong cable. Thanks to all of you for your help, at least everybody found an opportunity to exchange information.
 

LongTimePCUser

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If you are using RJ-45 cables you either need a hub or you need a special cross-over cable.

I have 6 PC connected using a thin ethernet cable. This is considered old fashioned currently but it does not need a hub. That means there is one fewer pieces of equipment to break. The downside is that a single break in the cable will disconnect 2 segments of the network. You are also limited to 10 Mb/sec.
 

tilki

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Exactly, as I found out, a crossover cable is what I need if I am to build a network without using a hub. I am having the cable arranged.