Windows Messenger
- Thread starter Sewellyboy
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go to your start button then go to run and type in
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
you could also just go Start->settings->controlpanel->add/remove programs...windows components..it should be there, just remove it (uncheck it) and it will uninstall. Sometimes when I uninstall however, the folder still resides in C:\Program Files\ (foldername: Messenger), I just remove the folder, and messenger is byebye.
Hope that helped,
KP
Hope that helped,
KP
That's incorrect. Windows Messenger is a core system component, it cannot be uninstalled...the process you speak of was introduced in SP1, and all it does is remove the shortcut from the Start menu.
Also, Sewellyboy, please be aware that if you use MSN Messenger, hacking Windows Messenger off the machine will kill several features in MSN Messenger.
I just renamed the Messenger folder and it stopped running (you have to ctrl alt delete the msgrs.exe or whatever it is that's running first, or you'll get an unable to modify error.) Now it doesn't run when I open outlook and doens't start up with windows (even hidden).
Just put services.msc into the run dialog box and disable the messenger option. The best option however, is to set up your windows install to never install messenger in the first place although it's more work than simply disabling it when you get into windows.
Reasons why it's a ridiculous procedure-
Why would a person think they had to do something in Outlook to disable an apperently seperate program ? It isn't called Outlook Messenger, is it ?
Why should a person have to start a program to tell it they don't want it to start ?
Why isn't there an option to disable it on the right click menu on the tray icon ?
Why even install it unless a person asks to install it ? It has absolutely nothing to do with an OPERATING SYSTEM; of course neither does 90% of the other stuff in Windows.
MrChad
Lifer
- Aug 22, 2001
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Since it starts up when Outlook or OE opens, my guess would that one had something to do with the other. But maybe that's just me.
A quick search of Microsoft's support site reveals these instructions on how to prevent it from starting up. But it's completely ridiculous to expect a user to search a support site. :roll:
Can you name some programs that behave differently? AOL Instant Messenger has to be opened to disable the "Start when Windows starts" option. So does Yahoo Messenger. So does Trillian. Why do we have different expectations for Windows Messenger?
That would be a nice feature, but again, as above, why are we holding Windows Messenger to a different standard?
It does offer some nice features such as Remote Assistance that are great for troubleshooting. I agree that it shouldn't start with Windows by default, but again, it's not too difficult to tell it to change its behavior.
It's interesting that programs such as Messenger rile people up about XP's bloat and Microsoft's abuse of their monopoly, but the lack of features such as pop-up blocking and tabbed browsing for IE (which are available from third-party vendors) is a sign of Microsoft's neglect of the computing world. Where do you draw the line?
I think the operating system should provide an enviroment for applications to have access to hardware. and enforce a modicum of consistency in terms of user interface with hardware and applications.
And that's it. Of course, it would be hard to justify a price of $100-200 for such a product, which is why we get XP instead.
And that's it. Of course, it would be hard to justify a price of $100-200 for such a product, which is why we get XP instead.
Jeff7
Lifer
- Jan 4, 2001
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I never use Outlook, except when I accidentally click the icon on the Start Menu - then I delete it.
On WinXP Pro, to disable Windows Messenger, I use gpedit.msc. Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Messenger. Enable both settings there, and Windows Messenger will be out of commission.
its even worse if you have msn for an ISP. according to thier support peeps disabling it or having it not start up on connection is not an option...Its part of the sign in process.
easiest way around it is to not use thier browser as the default but then you loose some of the extra features you are paying for...someday when I am bored will have to play with it and see If I can cripple it without hindering my sign in.
easiest way around it is to not use thier browser as the default but then you loose some of the extra features you are paying for...someday when I am bored will have to play with it and see If I can cripple it without hindering my sign in.
First, the MSN browser doesn't integrate in any way whatsoever with Windows Messenger...it uses MSN Messenger. Second, the MSN browser requires MSN Messenger in order to properly sync with your email...this is how you get the email counter in the button bar up top (as well as a couple of other nifty integration features). And the moment you figure out how to cripple MSN Messenger is the same moment the MSN browser will quit working. For example, uninstall MSN Messenger from Add/Remove and launch the browser: it will tell you MSN Messenger is missing, and demand that you go install it...if you say "no", your only option is to exit the sign-in screen.
MrChad-
well, after our back and forth, it turns out that stopping messenger from loading on startup and "disabling" it in Outlook Express doesn't work.
well, after our back and forth, it turns out that stopping messenger from loading on startup and "disabling" it in Outlook Express doesn't work.
Originally posted by: MrChad
What do you mean by "doesn't work"?
Starting Outlook Express still starts Messenger.
The registry changes in the Microsoft support document works, but that is a reasonable way to shut down a completely unneeded app ? I think not. It not only requires manually editting the registry, it requires creating 3 different keys in the registry that aren't already there, and assigning a dword value to one of them. This is not the kind of thing that is reasonable for the average user.
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