If you think SP2 is mainly a pop-up blocker, a firewall and reminders, you're merely looking at the superficial stuff. Remember the zero-day WMF exploit that was running around for close to a month before it was brought to light and detectable by antivirus apps? With SP2 and a hardware-DEP-equipped CPU, you could be preemptively protected from that, to give just a single example of how SP2 is better.
In the WMF exploit example, guess what it was being used to do? Install nasty stuff like SpyAxe. Having used Microsoft AntiSpyware beta before, I can also remark that any "slowdown" resulting from SP2 is going to pale in comparison to the sluggish feel of a system equipped with MS AntiSpyware.
You can always find some body that would call some thing in the world around us "Crap" (and I mean every thing not just computer related, and the same apply to "Annoying from the get-go".
Originally posted by: mechBgon
If you think SP2 is mainly a pop-up blocker, a firewall and reminders, you're merely looking at the superficial stuff. Remember the zero-day WMF exploit that was running around for close to a month before it was brought to light and detectable by antivirus apps? With SP2 and a hardware-DEP-equipped CPU, you could be preemptively protected from that, to give just a single example of how SP2 is better.
And if you think you need an antispyware app like Defender, but not SP2, then I don't understand your logic.
Think about this. If you are installing SP2 on a longstanding Windows install then I do suggest installing it in Safe Mode.
Originally posted by: dawks
Originally posted by: mechBgon
If you think SP2 is mainly a pop-up blocker, a firewall and reminders, you're merely looking at the superficial stuff. Remember the zero-day WMF exploit that was running around for close to a month before it was brought to light and detectable by antivirus apps? With SP2 and a hardware-DEP-equipped CPU, you could be preemptively protected from that, to give just a single example of how SP2 is better.
And if you think you need an antispyware app like Defender, but not SP2, then I don't understand your logic.
Think about this. If you are installing SP2 on a longstanding Windows install then I do suggest installing it in Safe Mode.
Well said mech. A Windows XP PC should NOT be on the internet WITHOUT SP2. One of the keys to SP2 was that Microsoft completly changed the way their binaries are compiled, which potentially fixed thousands of bug/security/issues itself.
And yes, installing Windows Defender, without wanting to install SP2 is just stupid. The 2 go hand-in-hand really.
I have SP2 running on 50+ machines at work, and 5-6 personal systems I regularly maintain and have no issues with it. It works flawlessly.
I cant seem to find a setting or any mention of realtime protection. Is this still active in Defender? Thats the biggest selling point for most people I've been installing it for. Kind of a pain if it lets you get infected, then cleans it at night during a scan..
Last time I had to do an executive report, the number was about 30% of new critical bugs do not effect SP2 or are much lower in impact with SP2.Originally posted by: mechBgon
If you think SP2 is mainly a pop-up blocker, a firewall and reminders, you're merely looking at the superficial stuff. Remember the zero-day WMF exploit that was running around for close to a month before it was brought to light and detectable by antivirus apps? With SP2 and a hardware-DEP-equipped CPU, you could be preemptively protected from that, to give just a single example of how SP2 is better.
And if you think you need an antispyware app like Defender, but not SP2, then I don't understand your logic.
Think about this. If you are installing SP2 on a longstanding Windows install then I do suggest installing it in Safe Mode.
Interesting because in the Defender forums it says you only see the systray icon when Defender is doing something, like warning you of spyware or perhaps running an update, which is why you may be seeing it. There must be a hundred posts of people asking why no tray icon. I didn't get a tray icon either.
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