Windows Activation Crack

Deadtrees

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Long before Win7 is released, there're many cracking methods that's surfacing the web.
All, I guess, does their job. And, there's this one that is different.

It's the one that actually makes your programs run faster because it shortens authentication processes that Windows checks upon running programs.

You see, when Windows runs a program, it checks to see whether Windows is a vaild one and that it should process the program or something else. It shortens such process so that applications run faster.

Now, I plan to buy Windows 7. I plan to buy it but this crack....is hard to pass. I guess I'll buy the Windows 7 and use this crack. I would've been far better if I could use Windows 7 as I bought it but it just won't be the case this time.

This thread has run its course. I'm putting it out of its misery

*thwack*

-ViRGE
 

13Gigatons

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The Master OEM key leaked out. It's what OEM's use for "systems locked pre-installation" builds.

I don't know what you mean about shortening auth time though, I haven't seen that one.
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
The Master OEM key leaked out. It's what OEM's use for "systems locked pre-installation" builds.

I don't know what you mean about shortening auth time though, I haven't seen that one.

Even before that Master OEM key leacked out, there has been many cracking methods on Win7. Based on the method people chose, they realized that there were differences in Win7 speed. Some methods just slows down the system speed because it's not as responsive as the others.
Realizing this, this guy found a way to shorten the authorization process time. It's a lot faster than the default Win7 one.

He says that the autorization process routinly checks below then decides the right one in order to run an application.
(OEM NONSLP, OEM NONSLP1,OEM NONSLP2,OEM NONSLP3,OEM SLPCOA,OEM SLPCOA1,OEM SLPCOA2,OEM SLPCOA3,OEM SLP,RETAIL,MAK,KMS,MUI,YPASS-RAC
BYPASS,TIMEBASEDEVAL,TIMEBASEDPROMO,TIMEBASEDSUB,TIMEBASEDTRIAL)

He made a token that eliminated such procedures (It requires slic2.1 or a virtual BIOS.)

If you've seen it and what people say, you wouldn't want to use that Master OEM key or the other methods. The last one boosted the speed by 2x and with the OEM key, the author says the speed boost will at 5x. Now that the OEM key is out, I think the promised 5x one will be out shortly.
 

ViRGE

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This sounds extremely suspect. The only significant per-executable check that Windows does is verifying digital signatures on signed executables, and you don't want to disable that for obvious reasons. Do you have any documentation that you can link to without violating the forum rules?
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
This sounds extremely suspect. The only significant per-executable check that Windows does is verifying digital signatures on signed executables, and you don't want to disable that for obvious reasons. Do you have any documentation that you can link to without violating the forum rules?

Sorry but I don't have links that wouldn't violate forum rules.
About the author: He's the guy that I'd trust and I'm a type of a person who doesn't trust people easily. He's been around quite a time and has made other tools beside this one. He's member of a small community forum where experts come and so far, he's never caused any problems. I know there's always a possibility but given his past history and reputation, I don't think his work is one of those things that does things behind your back.

 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: ViRGE
This sounds extremely suspect. The only significant per-executable check that Windows does is verifying digital signatures on signed executables, and you don't want to disable that for obvious reasons. Do you have any documentation that you can link to without violating the forum rules?

Sorry but I don't have links that wouldn't violate forum rules.
About the author: He's the guy that I'd trust and I'm a type of a person who doesn't trust people easily. He's been around quite a time and has made other tools beside this one. He's member of a small community forum where experts come and so far, he's never caused any problems. I know there's always a possibility but given his past history and reputation, I don't think his work is one of those things that does things behind your back.
Sorry about a bit of confusion there. Just so I'm clear, I'm calling it suspect because I think it's hogwash, not because I think whatever he's doing may be malicious.
 

shortylickens

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Its kinda sad that Microsofts DRM bullshit is actually hindering performance. But its amusing that people are so irritated by this they managed to fix the issue before the OS is even out.

I did hear about the special code being released and while I'm worried it will hurt official sales, something tells me you would have a hard time using the OS online with that code. I would assume that Windows 7 checks home quite frequently to make sure its a legit copy.
 

dguy6789

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If this is true, why is there no difference in application loading time when opening programs if you're connected to the internet with an idle connection, if you're you connected to the internet with a fully maxed out connection(this should cause some delay with an authentication process), and when you're not connected to the internet at all? Why is there no difference what so ever in the opening of programs during all 3 of those circumstances?
 

13Gigatons

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
The Master OEM key leaked out. It's what OEM's use for "systems locked pre-installation" builds.

I don't know what you mean about shortening auth time though, I haven't seen that one.

Even before that Master OEM key leacked out, there has been many cracking methods on Win7. Based on the method people chose, they realized that there were differences in Win7 speed. Some methods just slows down the system speed because it's not as responsive as the others.
Realizing this, this guy found a way to shorten the authorization process time. It's a lot faster than the default Win7 one.

He says that the autorization process routinly checks below then decides the right one in order to run an application.
(OEM NONSLP, OEM NONSLP1,OEM NONSLP2,OEM NONSLP3,OEM SLPCOA,OEM SLPCOA1,OEM SLPCOA2,OEM SLPCOA3,OEM SLP,RETAIL,MAK,KMS,MUI,YPASS-RAC
BYPASS,TIMEBASEDEVAL,TIMEBASEDPROMO,TIMEBASEDSUB,TIMEBASEDTRIAL)

He made a token that eliminated such procedures (It requires slic2.1 or a virtual BIOS.)

If you've seen it and what people say, you wouldn't want to use that Master OEM key or the other methods. The last one boosted the speed by 2x and with the OEM key, the author says the speed boost will at 5x. Now that the OEM key is out, I think the promised 5x one will be out shortly.

Hope I can find that if it's true.
 

Modelworks

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There is no 'make windows run faster ' because of activation crack. Anyone who tells you that is full of crap because they have no idea how activation even works. Windows does not check the activation every time it runs a program. It checks it a total of 3 times . Once on boot, two on updates or program installs( and only if the program being installed wants to know, most don't), three on shutdown. The reason the cracks changed the speed of the OS is because they were using an emulation layer for the motherboards bios.

I'm not pulling this out of thin air either. I run programs like Softice and ida pro regularly . If Windows was doing calls to the bios routinely for activation checks me and many others would have known about it months ago.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees


Sorry but I don't have links that wouldn't violate forum rules.
About the author: He's the guy that I'd trust and I'm a type of a person who doesn't trust people easily. He's been around quite a time and has made other tools beside this one. He's member of a small community forum where experts come and so far, he's never caused any problems. I know there's always a possibility but given his past history and reputation, I don't think his work is one of those things that does things behind your back.

Does he write memory defragmenting and reclaim memory from the OS programs too ?

That is part of the same snake oil programming.
 

KeypoX

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yeah this doesnt sound right to me. I am pretty sure programs dont care if windows is activated.
 

CptCrunch

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Doesnt sound right, but I'd like a link to read up on this. I too plan on purchasing Windows 7, but if I can get even more speed from it, then I'm willing to try on a test box.
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
If this is true, why is there no difference in application loading time when opening programs if you're connected to the internet with an idle connection, if you're you connected to the internet with a fully maxed out connection(this should cause some delay with an authentication process), and when you're not connected to the internet at all? Why is there no difference what so ever in the opening of programs during all 3 of those circumstances?


Originally posted by: Modelworks

There is no 'make windows run faster ' because of activation crack. Anyone who tells you that is full of crap because they have no idea how activation even works. Windows does not check the activation every time it runs a program. It checks it a total of 3 times . Once on boot, two on updates or program installs( and only if the program being installed wants to know, most don't), three on shutdown. The reason the cracks changed the speed of the OS is because they were using an emulation layer for the motherboards bios.

I'm not pulling this out of thin air either. I run programs like Softice and ida pro regularly . If Windows was doing calls to the bios routinely for activation checks me and many others would have known about it months ago.


Authorization check is done in OS itself. Nowhere in the thread, I stated or implied such authorization process requires Internet.

If the guy has no idea how activation even works, how could he keep making working cracks? Again, I'm not talking about Windows Activation procedure. I'm talking about License (Authorization). Try running programs on a Win7 machine where activation is screwed. You'll be greeted by authorization failure messages or software policy messages. Have you dealt with systems with screwed tokens due to crack gone wrong? The system slow down noticeably because Windows has to spend more time to check this license status. Just getting the System-Activation status screen takes long time. If you've been following this Win7 crack scene, you'd noticed how people care much about the speed of System-Activation status screen. Why does it matter? Because if duration is there, it means same duration is there for the applications' loading times.
What this guy's crack does is that it eliminated all the OEM NONSLP, OEM NONSLP1,OEM NONSLP2,OEM NONSLP3,OEM SLPCOA,OEM SLPCOA1,OEM SLPCOA2,OEM SLPCOA3,OEM SLP,RETAIL,MAK,KMS,MUI,YPASS-RAC
BYPASS,TIMEBASEDEVAL,TIMEBASEDPROMO,TIMEBASEDSUB,TIMEBASEDTRIAL routines except one and that is the one that matches the cracked token. In other words, the licensing check routine only has to check one license approval routine thus speeding up the whole procedure = it results in your programs to load faster. It also has been confirmed with hundreds of users.

This license check is part of Windows and stays in your RAM. Even if you stop this licening service, it checks itself in every 3 hours (sppsvc.)

BTW, here's a screen shot of the crack.

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/deadtrees/vfd.PNG

EDIT: Come to think of it, it's no wonder that it makes you skeptical. Though it's not the same issue, when I heard this guy complaining how AERO or even listening MP3 slows down Internet speed, I though he was so wrong. It just didn't make anay sense. For a while the guy was a laughing stock until it was discovered how MMCSS can cause such problems.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees


If the guy has no idea how activation even works, how could he keep making working cracks? Again, I'm not talking about Windows Activation procedure. I'm talking about License (Authorization). Try running programs on a Win7 machine where activation is screwed. You'll be greeted by authorization failure messages or software policy messages. Have you dealt with systems with screwed tokens due to crack gone wrong? The system slow down noticeably because Windows has to spend more time to check this license status.


I think most posters myself included misunderstood what you were posting about. The guy wrote a crack that is better than the previous crack. No big deal there happens all the time. Anytime you screw around with the way windows interacts with the hardware you can get all kinds of errors, from slow downs to crashes.


The problem with cracks of this sort is that any future updates have the potential of making it fail.

None of this applies to anyone who uses the legal authorized copies.


 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just getting the System-Activation status screen takes long time. If you've been following this Win7 crack scene, you'd noticed how people care much about the speed of System-Activation status screen. Why does it matter? Because if duration is there, it means same duration is there for the applications' loading times.
What? Nonsense!

The system activation screen requires decrypting or doing something intensive in order for it to come up. Normal application launches do none of that. The two are not related in any way.
 

runestone

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The way the crack speeds up running applications is like this: you just download the illegal copy, run the crack( virii and malware are free too)- then you save all that time working to pay for the OS like most of the rest of us do.
Or, just buy it on the streets of China, Vietnam, etc for a few bucks, all illegally activated with the full knowledge and consent of the communist authorities, who take their cut.
No need to worry- the rest of us dummies will pay your way when we shell out full purchase price like the western dopes that we are.
 

Deadtrees

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Where did you get the impression that I'm not buying Win7? I've already stated that I'm buying it "like most of the rest of us do."
Before you decide to be judgemental, read what has been said. I'm buying Win7 just like I've bought previous Windows.
To me, it's like overclocking CPU. I pay for the CPU and I like the idea of getting the most out of it. I'll buy Win7 and apply that crack so I can get that extra boost.
Again, I'm not promoting this crack. Even the guy who made it doesn't want it to be spread around the web because, unlike overclocking, it can and will cause people to not pay anything for what they should pay for.
The point is that it's been proven to work and does make applications load faster than the original activation methods. It doesn't make sense? Think about it, it's been stated by a guy who's fully knowledgeable on this matter and hundreds of programmers(most of that community's users are programmers due to the nature of the site) confirmed it working as stated.


 

runestone

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Where did you get the impression that I was saying YOU were not buying W7?
Please don't be so judgemental.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Its kinda sad that Microsofts DRM bullshit is actually hindering performance. But its amusing that people are so irritated by this they managed to fix the issue before the OS is even out.

I did hear about the special code being released and while I'm worried it will hurt official sales, something tells me you would have a hard time using the OS online with that code. I would assume that Windows 7 checks home quite frequently to make sure its a legit copy.

It's kind of sad that you believe everything you read in the Internets.

Personally, my "Bullshit!" meter went off the goddamn charts when I read his post.

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Again, I'm not promoting this crack. Even the guy who made it doesn't want it to be spread around the web because, it's a load of bullshit

Yea, fixed that for you.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Its kinda sad that Microsofts DRM bullshit is actually hindering performance. But its amusing that people are so irritated by this they managed to fix the issue before the OS is even out.

I did hear about the special code being released and while I'm worried it will hurt official sales, something tells me you would have a hard time using the OS online with that code. I would assume that Windows 7 checks home quite frequently to make sure its a legit copy.

It's kind of sad that you believe everything you read in the Internets.

Personally, my "Bullshit!" meter went off the goddamn charts when I read his post.

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Again, I'm not promoting this crack. Even the guy who made it doesn't want it to be spread around the web because, it's a load of bullshit

Yea, fixed that for you.
But of course everything YOU say is correct.

Take it to P&N. We need intelligent people here in the technical forums.
 

Gamingphreek

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There is absolutely no way this is true. You can install programs on a non-valid install just as fast as on a valid install.

Where do you think it calls these subroutines that you list? In the installer? (No). In the program? (No). I guarantee the programs I am writing right now will work just as fast whether you have activated windows or not - there are no calls that would suggest anything otherwise.

Sorry - Your "friend" is full of it.

-Kevin
 

Modelworks

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I think people are still misunderstanding what the OP was posting about.
He was talking about a activation crack that was faster than previous cracks, not that the activation crack made a legal install faster :)
Activation cracks can screw around with the speed of windows depending on how they are implemented, always have. If you activate with a legal key with MS then none of this applies.