Windows 8 Thoughts: A Necessary Evil.

scaramoosh

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I'm using it purely because it was only a £25 upgrade which I couldn't believe, I thought it would be like £180 or something. So really this is the most accessible Windows yet, for everyone, not just for people who buy prebuilds. Microsoft have been showing so many ads that my Mother phoned me up asking about it and upgraded her Laptop because it was so cheap. I don't think this will be a common scenario, most people don't care, however it helps pick up traction.

I'm using it myself and I don't like the Metro UI, I think it looks great and is much needed after how dated the Start Bar has become, Microsoft has needed to update it to bring in a new crowd. The problem I have with the UI is it just doesn't work well with a desktop, I find myself struggling to find stuff that was once so simple, but now so hidden. I find there are certain annoyances like it is hard to exit out of a Metro app and hard to go back a lot of the time. I find myself having to click on start at the bottom, to close it so I can go to the home page of whatever I'm using. I also find it hard to find settings for certain stuff and it ends up just being easier to use the Desktop website or program. This is also the case I have with IOS or Android, where thank God Android allows Flash Player or I would just never bother with browsing the net on a phone.

There are other weird things like why have they made so many steps to turn off your PC now? I don't like the whole thing of going to the bottom left and then moving the mouse cursor up to see the open apps and I have a similar problem for the settings on the bottom right. I just wish they made an easier to use UI for the Desktop, which ends up making Metro really hard to use and why I'm using Windows 7 instead. I really hope Microsoft update all this stuff but I doubt it. I mean they've removed safe mode from as far as I can tell, which is a major issue for me because when I installed my GPU drivers, I rebooted and suddenly my monitor wouldn't turn on any more and no safe mode = I cannot remove them. I dunno if they've changed that but now F8 does nothing.

Windows 8 is much faster, it's smoother and does even more automatically as each new windows does. My Mother managed to install it and it did everything for her really easily and she never had to install any drivers, Windows did it all. She says she likes the look of Metro but I've noticed she just uses the Desktop and then complains the Start button is gone all the time. Part of this is habit but on her Laptop she struggles navigating Metro more so than with a Desktop Mouse.


So while on one hand I really like the look of it and I felt like Windows has needed to be modernized, I think this is a first step rather than the solution. The new app stuff is great, it's what people expect and love from an OS now after Apple have made it so popular. On the other hand it's harder to use and just not that good to use on a Desktop. I would have preferred the Metro UI to be the new Start Bar look and you click Start and it pops up like the old Start Bar with a fresh new look and features, rather than it taking over the whole screen. That or I'd prefer the Metro UI to be like your Desktop background and have the functionality of a Desktop mixed in with it. I just don't like this whole separation, it makes it feel clunky and makes it harder to use and becomes confusing to people switching back and forth all the time.

It is an important step for Microsoft though, like I said it's a Necessary one, just it hasn't worked out this time around.
 

Jman13

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To get out of a Metro app, you just click at the top of the screen and pull down to close it. Not intuitive at all at first, but you get used to it. There are going to be a LOT of people lost when the first get Windows 8....the Metro stuff is a completely new interactive paradigm. Some of the UI choices are broken...just bad ideas. Others are really good. I have a feeling the bad ones will eventually go away, and the good ones will be improved.
 

scaramoosh

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I'd rather just to have a close button on screen and the ability to use Esc, all this dragging should be left to touch screens.

It's just all designed weird, like using the messaging app and how it doesn't display your contacts. You have to click start convo and then you see them, however it launches the People App to do this........ why not just have a list of my online contacts in the Messaging?


I know what they've tried to do, they've tried to copy Apple and have this simple, yet poorly functioning UI. People say IOS is user friendly... it isn't, it's harder to use and most stuff lacks features that are so simple.

Like I said, this is a first step, just not a good one yet.
 

fire400

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http://lifehacker.com/

http://lifehacker.com/5955089/how-to-bring-back-the-start-menu-in-windows-8

get familiar with:
winkey+i

winkey+tab

alt+tab

no one is forcing anyone to use metro apps. few of them have bugs, free or paid-for. also, metro apps can be built by anyone, don't even need command line programming skills.

even if you install the start menu, end users may realize how little they use the start menu.

funny to note, most of win8 users will realize how many bugs are existent..

there are free courses on the web that teach people how to use win8.
 

Spicedaddy

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Metro sucks with mouse/kb, and the desktop sucks with touch input. But you have both in one OS, and the choice to use the interface that suits you...
 

cmdrdredd

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I am busy looking at lots of reviews of windows 8 especially with regard to game performance which looks sometimes better than windows 7

Yeah I saw that too. There is a performance hit to physx but other than that it seems to be a bit better for gaming. More streamlined I guess.

Do any of you have the Logitech's new touchpad (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/touchpad-t650)?
this device supports Win8 gestures so may make Metro easier to use on a non-touch device

I have been using a remote desktop app on my Android device in conjunction with mouse and keyboard

Which remote desktop app are you using? I tried one and it was too slow to be functional and it told me my phone screen resolution was too low for some apps. I dont find myself using metro enough to purchase a dedicated touchpad for it but I would like to try it. I just don't think I would be willing to spend $50+ to do so.
 
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techpun

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i used windows 8 on a headless dev box.. with visual studio 2010, and i love it.. RDP is smooth. I am a fan, the metro ui is a PIMA..however a easy tweak and that could be fixed. I think so far so good.