Windows 7.... It's AMAZING!!!

ibex333

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I was one of those people that refused to get Vista as long as I possibly could, and argued like crazy with Vista defenders on various forums. I eventually got Vista because I needed it for college, and regretted it off course because it sucked in every way possible, plus it didn't support my ancient scanner which I really needed to use quite often. I put the scanner away and was going to throw it out this week, and buy a new one when... I saw this post:

http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/59069-installing-visioneer-onetouch-8100-scanner.html#post561203

Please read it, you might be amazed!!! I am shocked to find out that Win 7 has the capability to resurrect old hardware from the dead like this... One has to wonder how much more old junk will now work under Win 7 that didn't work with Vista... So pull out your garbage ancient scanners and printers and start using them again, or go to craigslist and buy old stuff for pennies if all you need is print/scan b/w low res documents.
 

inspiron

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yes I agree I love win7 in almost anyway possible! There have only been a couple but very small problems I have ran into using it... one of the biggest is win7 has some problems running older games.

Diablo II had a little bit of trouble but that was easy to tweak and get working, but fallout 1 and fallout 2 are not compatible! :(

Other than that, win7 is faster, good interface, and has some features I use and love. Of course I skipped the vista nightmare, so I am not sure how much win7 is like vista so I might of actually liked vista a little bit.

Win7 is the next gen windows so get it! :D

windows7.jpg
 

JulesMaximus

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I have only been using Windows 7 for a few days now on my new build. So far, I have zero complaints. It loaded easily and setup all my hardware correctly on the first boot. Functionally, it is a bit different but not too hard to figure out where things are.

I never had Vista on any machine I've owned or used at work. I'm still on XP at work and on a couple of my home computers.
 

Modelworks

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I just saw on a job site that MS has almost completed the hiring of the team they will need to finish windows 8, which is already in alpha :)
 

bendixG15

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My 4 USB wireless adapters do not work under Win 7.
There goes a couple hundred ..........
 

RySheR

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i've never used Vista too,
i stuck with XP because of my printer- ALPS printer- the only printer under $500 that can print white, gold metallic and silver metallic.
Windows 7 doesnt support the ALPS.
now i have to do a dual boot.
 

Red Squirrel

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I just saw on a job site that MS has almost completed the hiring of the team they will need to finish windows 8, which is already in alpha :)

So in other words, XP users are better off waiting then? :biggrin:

Actually so far from what I've seen I'm fairly impressed with 7. They went and changed lot of stuff around, but I would not say it's a bad thing, just need to take the time to learn it all. Same thing happened going from win2k to XP. Change is inevitable, and not always bad.
 

Maximilian

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Nice one, yeah windows 7 is great, its features are actually useful and the UI is a genuine improvement over XP. Libraries and that homegroup thing? Awesome! I have never ever shared files between computers over the network before because it was a bitch to set up and use, now its easy, join the homegroup and away you go :) Libraries are great too because the whole my documents/music/movies thing is usually on C: which isnt where i store my stuff and making shortcuts to get around that is messy, with libraries i can just remove the default folders and add my own on drives C through Z if i want. Nice layout in the libraries window too.
 

M0RPH

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Please read it, you might be amazed!!! I am shocked to find out that Win 7 has the capability to resurrect old hardware from the dead like this... One has to wonder how much more old junk will now work under Win 7 that didn't work with Vista... So pull out your garbage ancient scanners and printers and start using them again, or go to craigslist and buy old stuff for pennies if all you need is print/scan b/w low res documents.

There's nothing amazing about Windows 7 here. Many XP scanner drivers worked in Vista and would also work in W7 since it's virtually the same as Vista. I think that's what is going on with this Visioneer scanner driver. I'd imagine it would also work under Vista, even if you had trouble getting it to work. There's nothing magical about the compatibilty install options in W7... that was there in Vista as well. It only helps you install things, it does not make drivers work that otherwise wouldn't have.

It always makes me chuckle when i see people saying how much they loathed Vista and how much they adore Windows 7. It's 90% the same with some different packaging and better buzz. People are so quick to jump on bandwagons though.

When someone figures out a way to make a 32-bit scanner driver work in a 64-bit OS so that I can resurrect my Canoscan, then I'll be amazed.
 

Emulex

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windows 7 is a great skin of vista!

That mojave was no joke. except for all the windows 7 fanboys.
 

Mem

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Vista is very good , never had any issues with drivers etc,Win7 builds on Vista(I do use Linux,Vista,Win7,only phased out XP on my systems) and I'm sure Win8,Win9 will follow the same improved path,what's all the fuss about,btw no OS is amazing no matter how good it is.


As to drivers you have to remember its down to the manufacturer in question,this seperates the good companies from the bad when it comes to driver support.
 

Nothinman

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windows 7 is a great skin of vista!

That mojave was no joke. except for all the windows 7 fanboys.

Exactly, the Mojave thing proved that the worst part about Vista was the press and the people's willingness to blindly follow whoever speaks up the loudest.
 

dguy6789

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Vista was/is excellent and 7 is excellent. I could explain why in great detail but the people who would disagree with my statement probably have their minds made up to the point where it is set in stone no matter what information is presented, so I won't bother.

Windows 7 is much more than a reskin of Vista. Windows 7 is based on Vista and the vast majority of changes with Windows 7 are under the hood, so it's understandable why some people would say they are the same.

For people who are truly interested in the real differences between Vista and 7 and aren't just trying to bash Microsoft, just read these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_removed_from_Windows_7
 
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bupkus

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i've never used Vista too,
i stuck with XP because of my printer- ALPS printer- the only printer under $500 that can print white, gold metallic and silver metallic.
Windows 7 doesnt support the ALPS.
now i have to do a dual boot.
Try XP Mode-- a free download of 2 files that will allow you to create a virtual XP environment. I use it all the time but you need Windows 7 Professional for this feature.
 

Nothinman

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Try XP Mode-- a free download of 2 files that will allow you to create a virtual XP environment. I use it all the time but you need Windows 7 Professional for this feature.

And it requires a CPU with VT extensions for some reason.
 

lxskllr

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And it requires a CPU with VT extensions for some reason.

Maybe to guarantee good performance? I don't know... It's a bit lame imo. They should have made it work on anything, and let the user decide if the performance was good enough.
 

Nothinman

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Maybe to guarantee good performance? I don't know... It's a bit lame imo. They should have made it work on anything, and let the user decide if the performance was good enough.

I've never had performance issues on my home machine which is pre-VT extensions so I don't even think that's a valid reason.
 

Modelworks

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When someone figures out a way to make a 32-bit scanner driver work in a 64-bit OS so that I can resurrect my Canoscan, then I'll be amazed.

I can do it as can many other programmers, but what is it worth to you for someone to do it ? It would be cheaper to replace the scanner.
 

Modelworks

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Link? I would like to see the alpha.

There are no screenshots as of yet but plenty of clues about what direction they are heading by the job descriptions and training material they are putting out as well as stuff people have listed on resume.

Cloud Architecture
Cloud v/s Grid v/s Mesh Architecture
Windows Azure
Design Strategies for developing applications for the Cloud
Working on Hyper-V features for Win8 in the Platform and Management Extendability team, which is part of the Windows Core OS Kernel Group.

Using C and C++ programming languages in SourceInsight, developed a 100% functional C wrapper for C++ functions and the Hibernate/Resume Integration API, which will be used in Windows 8 replacing Windows Vista’s Xpress compression engine.”

Led working group to make a recommendation on a PatchGuard follow-on. Wrote a summary white paper and presented the results of the working group to the executive team. Recommendation of tabling the function until Windows 8 was accepted and it is now a Windows 8 feature candidate.”

“Authored DA setup guide, a complete guide for setting up DA that was used by several customers and other teams internal to Microsoft for configuring their DA environments. This guide was also the foundation for the DA test automation that will be created for Windows 8, and provided the foundation for the publicly available DA setup guide.”

I think they are going to focus more in the future on cloud computing where the application is stored on a server. Windows Azure integration is becoming a big deal with MS.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/windowsazure/


some people are hinting that Hyper-V will be the biggest change. Applications could each run inside their own virtual machine separate from anything else so a browser could not make permanent changes to windows because it would be contained.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-V
 
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shortylickens

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I can do it as can many other programmers, but what is it worth to you for someone to do it ? It would be cheaper to replace the scanner.

And this is the problem we have all over the place in the industrial sector. When I was at Hynix they were using old ass versions of Unix to run 286's which controlled the wafer processing machines (like the scanners and the steppers) cuz even though Windows XP could made to do it, it would cost too damn much to convert all that shit over.

Same deal when I was at Tektronix in the service depot. We kept plenty of DOS based machines around to calibrate many devices. Yes its possible to convert, but anyone with the skill to do so is going to charge a pretty penny for their time and effort.

Thats kinda why I like home computing nowadays. Things are so darn cheap its OK to replace perfectly good hardware just to use a newer OS. If I hadnt gotten Windows 7 for free from ACM, I would have just bought a whole new system. Even though I've been building my own since the DOS days, its just too time consuming for a basic computer. They are now cheap & reliable enough that I just dont care.
 

Nothinman

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When someone figures out a way to make a 32-bit scanner driver work in a 64-bit OS so that I can resurrect my Canoscan, then I'll be amazed.

If it's a USB scanner it would probably be pretty simple with libusb.
 

tcsenter

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Exactly, the Mojave thing proved that the worst part about Vista was the press and the people's willingness to blindly follow whoever speaks up the loudest.
Well that, and having a computer that exceeds the minimum requirements or features. i.e. I doubt MS was running 'Mojave' on integrated Intel graphics with a Celeron and 1GB RAM, or some other lowly configuration on which many OEMs were shipping Vista.
 

ibex333

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There's nothing amazing about Windows 7 here. Many XP scanner drivers worked in Vista and would also work in W7 since it's virtually the same as Vista. I think that's what is going on with this Visioneer scanner driver. I'd imagine it would also work under Vista, even if you had trouble getting it to work. There's nothing magical about the compatibilty install options in W7... that was there in Vista as well. It only helps you install things, it does not make drivers work that otherwise wouldn't have.

It always makes me chuckle when i see people saying how much they loathed Vista and how much they adore Windows 7. It's 90% the same with some different packaging and better buzz. People are so quick to jump on bandwagons though.

When someone figures out a way to make a 32-bit scanner driver work in a 64-bit OS so that I can resurrect my Canoscan, then I'll be amazed.

Sorry, but you are very wrong. This particular scanner did not work under Vista. Not only did it not work in my case, it didn't work in anyone's case. I did a lot of research on this. I believe someone got it to work under 64bit vista, but I couldn't find a single person who had in working in 32bit version...
 
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