Windows 2003 CALs

[Homerboy]

Setting up some new Win2k3 servers here for 95 users
1st machine will be a DC and will obviously have 95 user CALs on it.
2nd machine will be a file storage and DB storage that all users will have mapped on login via script (somethign simply like:

net use X: \\<file server name>\Public
net use Z: \\<file server name>\Database
etc etc

I do NOT need an additional 95 user CALs for the "file server" correct? As the DC is acting as the gate keeper and once inside, you are granted access to everything behind the gate (like a file server) except SQL, TS machines.

 

[RebateMonger]

Your later assumptions aren't necessarily true, but there's no need for more than 95 User CALs for your network either way.

Put all three of your Servers into "Per User / Per Device" licensing mode and you'll have 15 USER CALs (assuming that each copy of Server 2003 came with five licenses built in), plus however many additional User CALs you've purchased. Your User CALs can then be used on any Windows Server on your network.

Microsoft says that data being requested by a non-anonymous account through a database program requires that each of those non-anonymous accounts have a license for the database Server. But, again, it's a moot point as long as you are using the correct licensing mode.

 

[Homerboy]

So you're saying if I have 95 users, I buy 2 2003 licenses, I should only ned to by a total of 85 "extra" licenses" as long as they are in Per User mode correct?

 

[RichUK]

Will you have 95 users logged on at any one time?

If not, then ascertain the most of amount of users that?ll be logged on at any one time and add 5 to it. You might end up with a figure of 60, and therefore only require 60 CALs.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: RichUK
Will you have 95 users logged on at any one time?

If not, then ascertain the most of amount of users that?ll be logged on at any one time and add 5 to it. You might end up with a figure of 60, and therefore only require 60 CALs.

Yes all 95 would be logged in at a single given time... I've already thought of that "loop hole"

 

[RichUK]

Also, this might be of help to you:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sam/lic_cal.mspx

I think the entire concept of Client Access Licenses is retarded, anyway.

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
So you're saying if I have 95 users, I buy 2 2003 licenses, I should only ned to by a total of 85 "extra" licenses" as long as they are in Per User mode correct?

That's correct.

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Understand the difference between "Per Server" (the default licensing mode of Server 2003) and "Per User / Per Device" mode:

In "Per Server" mode, your CALs will only be good for a SINGLE server. "Per Server" mode is typically useful if you only have a single server. The one nice thing about it is that is licenses CONCURRENT Users.

The old "Per Seat" mode (now called "Per User or Per Device" allows a named User or Device to access ANY Windows Server on your network. But it's not concurrent licensing. Each User or Device that will access the servers AT ANY TIME need to have a license.

Details on how the client access license works.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: RebateMonger

Originally posted by: Homerboy
So you're saying if I have 95 users, I buy 2 2003 licenses, I should only ned to by a total of 85 "extra" licenses" as long as they are in Per User mode correct?

That's correct.

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Understand the difference between "Per Server" (the default licensing mode of Server 2003) and "Per User / Per Device" mode:

In "Per Server" mode, your CALs will only be good for a SINGLE server. "Per Server" mode is typically useful if you only have a single server. The one nice thing about it is that is licenses CONCURRENT Users.

The old "Per Seat" mode (now called "Per User or Per Device" allows a named User or Device to access ANY Windows Server on your network. But it's not concurrent licensing. Each User or Device that will access the servers AT ANY TIME need to have a license.

Details on how the client access license works.

Correct me if I'm wrong but buying actual 2003 licenses, say through volume/select type purchase, does not give you 5 licenses per server. I was under the impression that the included 5 licenses was only with retail type purchases...yes?

 

[Homerboy]

Correct me if I'm wrong but buying actual 2003 licenses, say through volume/select type purchase, does not give you 5 licenses per server. I was under the impression that the included 5 licenses was only with retail type purchases...yes?

You are correct. The 5 CALs only come with retail and no CALs come when you are using VLKs. So I had to pruchase 95 CALs seperately.

Regardless installing as we speak and setting the DC to "Per User/Device" as suggested.
This better work!! 😛