Windows 10 will come with a command line package manager

[ControlD]

Of course your bleeding edge video card that the manufacturer refuses to develop drivers to support Linux isn't going to be supported the day it is released. M$ has made sure of that. But yet M$ feels just fine taking the ideas and programs developed by the open source community such as retrieving and installing programs from a repository with a command line program called *get is just fine.

I don't think my AMD 7850 is considered bleeding edge by any metric. AMD releases drivers for Linux, but since they aren't open source nobody makes those the default driver installed. To get video acceleration requires a download and a quick trip to the CLI.

As for the rest, everyone borrows from everyone else. Welcome to tech.

 

[Spungo]

It's like I woke up and it's 1998.

Thank god M$ listened to all the hate. They fixed most of the things people hated about Windows:
-automatic patching sucked
-major driver problems
-programs taking direct control of the hardware (or trying to)
-multiple programs trying to take control of the same hardware
-DLL hell
-COM
-ActiveX
-no security on the OS side (every user is root)
-no security on the anti-virus side
-no firewall

Computers really sucked in the past. Everybody probably remembers this flash video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Eti38Vzkk

 

[Rhonda the Sly]

Yes, everyday users would hate to have to use this but it likely has uses for admins, developers, and enthusiasts.

This actually makes a bit of sense and isn't altogether too surprising. If Microsoft planned on making traditional apps installable through the Store, as I believe they've mentioned, they'd probably want a package manager in place to reduce the redundancy in downloads and to handle things not included in the application's MSI.

 

[ultimatebob]

Looks like another MS thing that will go nowhere. Vista had widgets that nobody used. Windows 8 had apps nobody used.

apt-get worked in Linux because Linux users are Linux users. Trying to get your mom to type commands will never work. Even worse, people (4chan) will put fake guides on the internet that destroy computers.

Example of fake advice for dumb people:
http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2013/12/xboxone.jpg

Even for a newbie, typing something like "yum -y install chrome" is easier than going to google.com/chrome and having to click on a bunch of obnoxious security dialogs to download and run the file.

Not to mention that the yum command is easier to script for mass deployments.

 

[TheSlamma]

Thank god M$ listened to all the hate. They fixed most of the things people hated about Windows:
-automatic patching sucked
-major driver problems
-programs taking direct control of the hardware (or trying to)
-multiple programs trying to take control of the same hardware
-DLL hell
-COM
-ActiveX
-no security on the OS side (every user is root)
-no security on the anti-virus side
-no firewall

Computers really sucked in the past. Everybody probably remembers this flash video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Eti38Vzkk

Evolution isn't just bound to biology. Hardware and software also must evolve. 20 years from now people who don't understand this concept will say the stuff from the 201x's sucked too.

 

[Skaendo]

I don't think my AMD 7850 is considered bleeding edge by any metric. AMD releases drivers for Linux, but since they aren't open source nobody makes those the default driver installed. To get video acceleration requires a download and a quick trip to the CLI.

I don't think supporting 3 Linux distros can be considered releasing drivers for Linux.

RED HAT Enterprise Linux suite
Novell/SuSE product suite
Ubuntu​

As for the rest, everyone borrows from everyone else. Welcome to tech.

I have enough to say on this that I could start a new thread, actually a book, but I'm afraid it would just turn into another 'Windows vs Linux (vs Mac/Apple)' thread.

 

[Ketchup]

... but I'm afraid it would just turn into another 'Windows vs Linux (vs Mac/Apple)' thread.

Like you have been trying to turn this thread since your first post? Please contribute or leave.

Back on topic, I would like to play with this before making any real decisions about it. Who knows, it could be like the first boot of Windows 95 all over again!

 

[lxskllr]

I think it's great, especially if they keep a curated catalog without a bunch of crapware. Just because it's Powershell by default doesn't mean someone can't write a gui wrapper for it, same as GNU/Linux. That'll help prevent people from downloading software from freefirefoxdownload.com, and hopefully eliminate checkboxes that install garbage you don't want. I won't be going back to Windows for numerous reasons, but this is the best feature they've released in awhile.

 

[Skaendo]

Like you have been trying to turn this thread since your first post? Please contribute or leave.

I'm just saying it is just another in a long line of things that MS has 'borrowed' from Linux.
Yet they felt that it was appropriate to sue TomTom (Linux based) back in 2009 for (8) patent infringements and claimed that Linux had another 230+ patent infringements.

 

[Mushkins]

I'm just saying it is just another in a long line of things that MS has 'borrowed' from Linux.
Yet they felt that it was appropriate to sue TomTom (Linux based) back in 2009 for (8) patent infringements and claimed that Linux had another 230+ patent infringements.

We get it, you've got a hard-on for linux. Linux has borrowed plenty from windows too, good design is good design regardless of who "did it first." Can we move on please?

This is an awesome tool for windows admins, especially if they're adding support for third party apps like Firefox. I can't wait for the day when I can use a simple script to deploy and update things like Java and Adobe Reader to an entire domain without jumping through a billion convoluted hoops or using expensive third-party deployment software.

 

[Spungo]

This is an awesome tool for windows admins, especially if they're adding support for third party apps like Firefox. I can't wait for the day when I can use a simple script to deploy and update things like Java and Adobe Reader to an entire domain without jumping through a billion convoluted hoops or using expensive third-party deployment software.

There isn't a way to do this already?

Can you issue commands to computers? It should be fairly simple to make a script that will check the registry if something is installed, and if not, run this installer at X location on the network.