Windows 10 spotted on Newegg. Pre-order, no ETA.

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phreaqe

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Since windows 10 is free what exactly are you ordering from newegg i wonder....
 
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phreaqe said:
Since windows 10 is free what exactly are you ordering from newegg i wonder....
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It's only free to people who have an existing copy of Win 7, 8, or 8.1 within a year of 10's release.

New computer, you'll need to purchase the OS.
 
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mpo said:
It's only free to people who have an existing copy of Win 7, 8, or 8.1 within a year of 10's release.

New computer, you'll need to purchase the OS.
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So any computer that is worthy of running it will get a free upgrade.

also I highly doubt they will start charging for it after a year. This seems like the "temporary" xbox price cut before Christmas. Even if they do, Why would you preorder a paid version when you could just go download the free version....
 
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phreaqe said:
So any computer that is worthy of running it will get a free upgrade.
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I'm not a gamer, so my 2007-era Core2Duo Vista x64 desktop (a Dell, no less, gasp) runs just fine. Same stock PSU, hell, the 500GB Seagate drive it came with still works fine, though that's now sitting on a shelf as a back-up system drive in the unlikely event my SSD fails. Upgrading wouldn't solve my non-existent complex networking issues, or let me surf the Internet, process words, or even calculate the minimal spreadsheets I use at home any faster, so I see no reason to change operating systems on this machine, or even buy/build a new desktop for the time being, though needless to say, I wouldn't go looking for an old copy of Vista to install on a new build...
 
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Mike64 said:
I'm not a gamer, so my 2007-era Core2Duo Vista x64 desktop (a Dell, no less, gasp) runs just fine. Same stock PSU, hell, the 500GB Seagate drive it came with still works fine, though that's now sitting on a shelf as a back-up system drive in the unlikely event my SSD fails. Upgrading wouldn't solve my non-existent complex networking issues, or let me surf the Internet, process words, or even calculate the minimal spreadsheets I use at home any faster, so I see no reason to change operating systems on this machine, or even buy/build a new desktop for the time being, though needless to say, I wouldn't go looking for an old copy of Vista to install on a new build...
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I am not really sure if you are arguing or agreeing with me....
imo that computer is not worthy of an upgrade. It may be just fine for you, but i could not handle working on that.
Edit: and i would actually argue that an upgrade would help you do some of those things faster, because with some of the crappy websites out there even my i5 laptop gets slow feeling sometimes. playing HD video can be choppy sometimes and its way faster then a c2d era cpu. plus i dont know the memory limits on that CPU/MB but being able to use more memory helps alot as well.
 
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phreaqe said:
I am not really sure if you are arguing or agreeing with me....
imo that computer is not worthy of an upgrade. It may be just fine for you, but i could not handle working on that.
Edit: and i would actually argue that an upgrade would help you do some of those things faster, because with some of the crappy websites out there even my i5 laptop gets slow feeling sometimes. playing HD video can be choppy sometimes and its way faster then a c2d era cpu. plus i dont know the memory limits on that CPU/MB but being able to use more memory helps alot as well.
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I would say I'm disagreeing rather than arguing. ;) I thought Windows 10, like Windows 7 and 8, was supposed to be leaner and meaner than Vista on any platform that supported it?

Fwiw, the E7300 CPU could use more, but my Dell-crippled MB allows max 4MB RAM, which I have. Also installed a discrete video card. My broad-but-low-band-width ISP connection is more limiting than the hardware for streamed video, I don't see much of a problem with local video. But whatever, obviously I'm not an "hardware enthusiast," but post-Vista OSes haven't been marketed only toward enthusiasts...
 
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I would say I'm disagreeing rather than arguing. ;) I thought Windows 10, like Windows 7 and 8, was supposed to be leaner and meaner than Vista on any platform that supported it?

Fwiw, the E7300 CPU could use more, but my Dell-crippled MB allows max 4MB RAM, which I have. Also installed a discrete video card. My broad-but-low-band-width ISP connection is more limiting than the hardware for streamed video, I don't see much of a problem with local video. But whatever, obviously I'm not an "hardware enthusiast," but post-Vista OSes haven't been marketed only toward enthusiasts...
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They are leaner.

MS still hasn't mentioned OEM users. I buy and clean install (and only clean install) OEMs always on my twin boxes. So $200+ when a new OS is out. For 10, doesn't say what goes where how. Why doesn't MS just provide a direct .iso download link that is the full fat clean install version for free in the first year? Install at will and all that . . . .
 
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Yes that is true, MS is going to upgrade everybody to 10. I can only hope that classic shell will work in 10.
 
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ch33zw1z said:
:rolleyes:
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Instead of an eyeroll how about a counterpoint with some actual content?

If your computer is not already running windows 7/8 why would you care about upgrading it to windows 10? Windows 7 came out in 2009 If you have not bothered to upgrade in the last 6 years i see no reason to get all bent out of shape that you are not getting a free upgrade to windows 10.

And i would still say that if your computer is 6 years old or older its not worth upgrading it to windows 10. You can get a new computer that would be much more powerful for $300 or less that would include a version of the OS that can get the free ugprade.
 
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phreaqe said:
And i would still say that if your computer is 6 years old or older its not worth upgrading it to windows 10.
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I have a six year old Thinkpad at work which uses a C2D with Win7 and it works just fine for everything I do*. I don't want to put Win10 on it because it ain't broke so why fix it? But since Win10 is free I don't see a reason not to upgrade it either. I guess I'll see if Win10 has appropriate drivers and if it does I'll upgrade it.

* Actually, their are a few websites that really load up on video advertisements that tend to cause it to choke, but turning off flash in Chrome fixes that.
 
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phreaqe said:
Instead of an eyeroll how about a counterpoint with some actual content?

If your computer is not already running windows 7/8 why would you care about upgrading it to windows 10? Windows 7 came out in 2009 If you have not bothered to upgrade in the last 6 years i see no reason to get all bent out of shape that you are not getting a free upgrade to windows 10.

And i would still say that if your computer is 6 years old or older its not worth upgrading it to windows 10. You can get a new computer that would be much more powerful for $300 or less that would include a version of the OS that can get the free ugprade.
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I agree and disagree. Yes, Windows 10 is probably not worthy on a really old machine (pre-Vista), because even Windows 8 requires CPU features that aren't on some older machines (I think). At least, I heard that Windows 8 won't run on some really old machines that don't have .... something .... but I forget what. This does not bother me at all, because Linux works great on my older laptop and I just keep XP as a backup OS (not connected to the internet) for anything that isn't easy to use in Linux. Not much reason to stick with M$ on an older machine.
 
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phreaqe said:
So any computer that is worthy of running it will get a free upgrade.

also I highly doubt they will start charging for it after a year. This seems like the "temporary" xbox price cut before Christmas. Even if they do, Why would you preorder a paid version when you could just go download the free version....
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I know some people still use Vista (my brother, somehow, among them.) In my brother's case, he's got a Q6600 and probably 4GB of RAM - easily enough to support Windows 10. But I'm going to guess that anyone who stuck it out on Vista and skipped Windows 7 probably doesn't want Windows 10 either.
 
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ninaholic37 said:
I agree and disagree. Yes, Windows 10 is probably not worthy on a really old machine (pre-Vista), because even Windows 8 requires CPU features that aren't on some older machines (I think). At least, I heard that Windows 8 won't run on some really old machines that don't have .... something .... but I forget what. This does not bother me at all, because Linux works great on my older laptop and I just keep XP as a backup OS (not connected to the internet) for anything that isn't easy to use in Linux. Not much reason to stick with M$ on an older machine.
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If you're speaking of your personal needs, OK. If you're talking about in general, many people will stay on Windows because it is often easier to use, and has a far greater selection of tools and utilities to use. It's hard enough on OSX to find stuff sometimes (without going into the App store and paying through the nose. I'm looking at you, Cyber Duck!) and Linux in my experience is worse in terms of availability.
 
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ninaholic37 said:
I agree and disagree. Yes, Windows 10 is probably not worthy on a really old machine (pre-Vista), because even Windows 8 requires CPU features that aren't on some older machines (I think). At least, I heard that Windows 8 won't run on some really old machines that don't have .... something .... but I forget what.
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I found more details about this (one part of it anyway). If you CPU does not support PAE, NX or SSE2, you can apparently install a special patch to bypass it in Windows 8:

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...2-check/page12?p=771750&viewfull=1#post771750

I am not sure if this is enough, and perhaps Windows 10 will be more aggressive with these sorts of checks/needs on older CPUs as well, but it's a start. :)
 
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phreaqe said:
Instead of an eyeroll how about a counterpoint with some actual content?

If your computer is not already running windows 7/8 why would you care about upgrading it to windows 10? Windows 7 came out in 2009 If you have not bothered to upgrade in the last 6 years i see no reason to get all bent out of shape that you are not getting a free upgrade to windows 10.

And i would still say that if your computer is 6 years old or older its not worth upgrading it to windows 10. You can get a new computer that would be much more powerful for $300 or less that would include a version of the OS that can get the free ugprade.
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That's not what you said in the original post containing the small snippet I quoted.
 
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