Windows 10 - data corruption issues

asia25fab

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Since W10 (and I do like it) I have had lots of file corruptions (system and “unable to open ...user/desktop/ as location is corrupt or unreadable), and on at
least three occassions (in 3 months) the start menu has stopped working (won't pop up) and some taskbar icons have dissappeared (usually at the same time as start menu error), mail and edge won't open, backup option becomes unavaliable, and windows update won't install up dates. Not all of the above at the same time but each issue has happen multiple times quite a short period.

With my Samsung Evo 250 GB ssd im getting data corruption, windows apps stops working and windows 10 can no longer start issues due to corruption of system files.

I have run many tests on my ssd:

Samsung Magician says drive is healthy.
SeaTools 'long test' says 100% pass
memtest on my RAM passes all tests
chkdsk (when getting errors but windows still bootable) says no errors
sfc (when getting errors but windows still bootable) says 100% ok
Malwarebytes (when getting errors but windows still bootable) nothing found
windows defender (when getting errors but windows still bootable) nothing found


Any ideas as to what may be causing corruption of system files on my hard drive?

Bad RAM? (but it passed memtest test )

My rams: Kingston 2x8gb Kingston Hyperx 1600

Cpu is 3770K and psu Corsair 850 RM.

Windows 10 is installed due to MBR partition. Motherboard is Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 UEFI.
 

nerp

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Was this a fresh Windows 10 install or an upgrade? Was the system image ever cloned from an HD?
 

postmortemIA

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Turning off fast boot in power options helped me when Windows 7 (I'm dual booting with it) partition thought t hat Windows 10 partition is corrupted.
 

Elixer

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Which memtest program did you try, and for how long did you let it run?
 

coercitiv

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Data corruption doesn't come and go every few weeks or so.

  • Can you please show us a screenshot of your SMART parameter list? You can use Samsung Magician for that, it's in the drive information tab.
  • Have you tried replacing your current SATA cable?
 

asia25fab

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Any ideas as to what may be causing corruption of system files on my hard drive?

Bad RAM? (but it passed memtest tests


Yes i check Samsung Magician and smart reading are 100% fine and healthly.
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asia25fab

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So i am after format ,this time with GPT partition. I installed again clean install of Windows 10. All is fine. But i have a question. Why it get corrupted before format? Still hardware issue or software?
 

hhhd1

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had a crucial SSD once do this,
randomly says files are corrupted, and for example, fails to load user profile, and slow down when reading some files, and then later they work fine.

a clean install fixed the issue.
 

Elixer

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yes fresh install of Windows10.


I did memtest86 for 30 hours and no errors

Can you try memtest86+, and also, when that is done, use OCCT to check for other issues, like CPU or PSU issues. (let OCCT run for 1 hour, and monitor the voltages).
 

Innokentij

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So i am after format ,this time with GPT partition. I installed again clean install of Windows 10. All is fine. But i have a question. Why it get corrupted before format? Still hardware issue or software?

Did u maybe upgrade the FW of the SSD? My corsair force GT kept falling out and BSOD my pc until i reformated the drive after FW upgrade. Worst 4 months of my life, cosair forum was usless had to figure out this nonsense on my own and nothing made sense.
 

asia25fab

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had a crucial SSD once do this,
randomly says files are corrupted, and for example, fails to load user profile, and slow down when reading some files, and then later they work fine.

a clean install fixed the issue.
Did you RMA ssd?

No i dont upgrade FW. SO guys question. RMA ssd ? But like i said after format ( GPT this time )and install again fresh install of Windows 10 all is fine.
So that issue before format was hardware or software issue?
 

XavierMace

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If it's working fine now and all tests say it's fine, I don't see Samsung letting you RMA it.
 

asia25fab

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Last question . I am very interested where was issue. Also before format i was unable to run Event Viewer and task manager . They was not responding. That was related to hardware or software?

But like i said memtest86 showing not errors, and SDD status is 100% heathly.
 

corkyg

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Based on your latest info, it appears to be a BIOS issue which caused a software issue.
 

asia25fab

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I made topic because some peoples told me that corrupt data , can be caused by faulty memory(( What is yours opinions? But like i said i test memtest86, Windows Diagnostics Memory and hdtune showing no errors. Maybe try GoldMemory or that will be waste of time?
 

hhhd1

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Did you RMA ssd?

No i dont upgrade FW. SO guys question. RMA ssd ? But like i said after format ( GPT this time )and install again fresh install of Windows 10 all is fine.
So that issue before format was hardware or software issue?

in my case it was 100% hardware issue, specifically the ssd.

many SSDs are know to slow down over time, usually in certain regions of thr drive, sometime the slow down can be so severe that data fail to be read completly.

i have 2 crucial m4 ssds:
1. requires refresh (or format) every 2~3 months.
2. requires refresh (or format) every 12~18 months.

i made detailed post in the past somewhere in this forum about the issue.
 

asia25fab

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in my case it was 100% hardware issue, specifically the ssd.

many SSDs are know to slow down over time, usually in certain regions of thr drive, sometime the slow down can be so severe that data fail to be read completly.

i have 2 crucial m4 ssds:
1. requires refresh (or format) every 2~3 months.
2. requires refresh (or format) every 12~18 months.

i made detailed post in the past somewhere in this forum about the issue.

You said:"in my case it was 100% hardware issue, specifically the ssd."

Did you rma SSD then ? And rma my SSD then? What you think?? But like i said on new clean install of Windows 10 this time on GPT partition all is fine. Please share opinion. Thank you.
 
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hhhd1

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If I were you, i would try to RMA the drive.

one of the drives: I didn't RMA because i shipped internationally, and shipping for warranty would cost allot.

the other one, i discovered the issue after the 3 years warranty have ended.


but, in your case, try to make sure first if possible that there are no other possible reason for the error.
 

asia25fab

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So rma SSD and say what? If on GPT partition and new install of Windows 10 is fine.

Also smart is reading all fine. What you think ?

So maybe it was SSD fault or something? Maybe something with SSD ? But it working fine with GPT partition now. So why it get corrupted with MBR then? So why it not worked well with MBR then ?

What you think? But Samsung Magician Smart tells that are fine.
 
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tynopik

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run with just 1 stick of memory at a time and see if there's one that works better than the other