Win98SE being difficult on NT Domain, please help if you know solution

[Norssak]

Ok, here is the deal:

Got an NT 4.0 SP6 Server and a Win98SE workstation. When the Win98SE machine tries to logon to the Domain I get: ? Invalid Password ?. I know my damn password, and it?s the Administrator Account so it can?t be locked. Gets stranger, if I ignore it for around 10min it accepts the password and logs on correctly. If I immediately logoff and try to logon again I am back where I started 10min earlier.

This has something to do with Win98SE, cause the same machine logs on fine using regular Win98.
If anyone has a remedy for this I would be very happy to hear it !!

Details:
Running only TCP/IP via DHCP
Got WINS server
NIC is 3com 905c
Master Browser is disabled on workstations
The workstation is talking to the PDC, because it reacts correctly to invalid user/domain names
Yes I checked Caps lock

 

[LordOfAll]

Does it do that for all user names and passwords or just that specific user name and PW?

 

[cz]

On NT server you need to create a machine account for your Win98SE machine as well.

 

[jdwright]

I doubt it will help, but on the school district network that I work on, there are some locations that time out when logging onto the network. This results in an invalid password message.

Probably not the same issue, but i thought i'd mention it...good luck!

 

[DieselMan]

I've also had this problem a couple of days ago (but with a win95a workstation loggin on the an NT domain); the problem went away but I never identified the reason. All I can say is that MAKE SURE YOU add the computer to the domain (on the NT server, go to Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools -> Server Manager). If you don't make the win98 workstation log on to the domain (but just access the workgroup), you can always reach your server's shares by using the UNC's and mapping the drives, and you don't need to add the machine to the domain either this way(win9x is just plain stupide when it comes to security LOL 😛 ).

Also, sometimes, if you change the computer's NIC, or if you physically remove a computer from then network and you immediately replace it with another computer/NIC and give it the same Netbios name, Server Manager will not validate the workstation due to the different MAC adddress of this other network card.

 

[Spiff]

The only thing you can do with Win9x and WinME is set them up so that users login to a NT/2000 domain as opposed to the local system.

No version of Win9x nor WinME exists in an NT or 2000 "domain". The machines do not have accounts in an NT domain. There is no authentication taking place with Win9x or WinME machines.

Only NT and Win2k systems actually partake in NT/2000 domains. NT and Win2k actually have machine accounts, but Win9x and WinME do not.

That being said, I don't have a specific resolution for your problem. Outside of typos in the username or in the password, I don't recall seeing any other reason for an "Invalid Password" response.

Things I would suggest just for the hell of it:

- check to make sure your promary login is set correctly; in this case "client for MS networks"

- make sure you are trying to login to the domain name and not the server name

- remove any *.pwl files that may exist for the userid(s) with which you are trying to login

- verify, as stated above, that this happens with all accounts and not just one. if it occurs with only one account, then I would insure the account infor was correct