Win98SE and Network Card IP Address

andrey

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Here is a little problem I ran across. Every time I start Windows98SE, IP which gets assigned to my computer is 10.0.0.4 and I don't have any computers on my network at the moment, so in theory I should receive 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.1 is the address of my DSL Modem/Router). When I boot up into Win2000 on the same computer, I receive 10.0.0.2 as the way it is suppose to be, but not in Windows98 SE. Is there any way I can force/change which IP gets assigned to my NIC? Also, I should add that if I assign IP manually, my DSL doesn't work (I set IP=10.0.0.2, Subnet Mask=255.255.255.0 and Gateway=10.0.0.1). My DSL provider is Qwest (formely USWest). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 

bigshooter

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You need to configure your dsl router, assuming you have the cisco external one. I don't remember how, but i think you can tell it to assign certain IP's. As long as everything is working (you have internet right) and you are the only one on the network, why does it matter what IP you get?
 

andrey

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well, the reason I need my computer to be on 10.0.0.2 IP is for the purpose of my little FTP, when I need to transfer couple files from work to home and my email won't hold more than 2Mb. When I configure Cisco 675, I need to specify which IP my computer is on (10.0.0.2 or 10.0.0.4). If my IP changes every time I'm in Win98 or Win2000, it is very inconvinient to reconfigure my router every single time.
BTW, everything was working fine before I had to swap my hard drive. While I was waiting for RMA drive to arrive, I was using my laptop to do all my work. Laptop was getting and still getting 10.0.0.3 no matter what. I didn't change anything within Windows on my main desktop, just copied partition from one drive to another.
 

Viper GTS

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There are two ways around this.

One, simply hardcode the IPs in each of your OSs.

Two, enter multiple NAT entries into the 675. The 675 can support up to 50 NAT entries, so why not add 10.0.0.2 - 10.0.0.5 to cover the whole range? Wildcard them with:

cbos#set nat entry add 10.0.0.2
cbos#set nat entry add 10.0.0.3
cbos#set nat entry add 10.0.0.4
cbos#set nat entry add 10.0.0.5

Simple.

Also, power cycling the 675 should clear the DHCP pool, & a winipcfg release & renew should pull a 10.0.0.2.

Viper GTS
 

andrey

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If I do set IP manually:

<< IP= 10.0.0.2
<< Subnet Mask= 255.255.255.0
<< Default Gateway= 10.0.0.1

I can't get on the internet any longer. Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
 

andrey

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Viper, thanks for an excellent suggestion, but how would Cisco 675 determine where I have FTP-Server software installed ?
I also already tried winipcfg, but that didn't seem to make a difference. I even took out Intel NIC, reinstalled it, but it still gets 10.0.0.4 :(
 

office boy

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What your FTP won't work on 10.0.0.4?
Just manually set IP to that, and leave it, No fuss, no muss.
Although Viper GTS's idea sound fun and intriguing...
 

andrey

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office boy, thanks, but it will work only in Win98. If I boot up to Win2000, I will have to reconfigure my Cisco 675 again...
 

office boy

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I'm a bit confused now.. why can't you have the same manually configured IP in Win98 and Win2K?
 

andrey

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If I set IP manually, my DSL service doesn't work for some reason. Take a look at couple posts above. Unless there is other way of setting IP, I'm pretty much ready to try anything :)
 

office boy

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You said that if you set it to 10.0.0.2 it dosn't work. But if your router is already automatically assigning 10.0.0.4 to you'r computer, then using 10.0.0.4 as the manual IP should (and will) work. Don't forget the other stuff though (like subnet, and DNS)
 

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andrey...

When you hardcode it, you'll have to set everything:

IP address
Subnet Mask
Default Gateway
DNS

All of that is configured using DHCP, &amp; if you turn DHCP off you'll have to set it all.

As for the Cisco &quot;knowing where your FTP software is,&quot; this Cisco couldn't care less. All the Cisco cares about is whether or not it's supposed to route all traffic to a specific internal IP address. If you set up NAT entries for both IPs, all traffic to either IP address will get passed accordingly. The reason you could get by with running an FTP server off a variable internal IP address is that you'll only be using one at a time. You won't ever have both 10.0.0.2 AND 10.0.0.4 at the same time.

As for why Win98 insists on pulling the 10.0.0.4, that occasionally happens. Normally it isn't an issue. If you're really that concerned about it, I believe there's a registry hack that will clear that up.

Viper GTS
 

andrey

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Thanks Viper, finally got the whole thing to work they way I want it. The problem was I was not setting DNS entries correctly, that's why manual IP wouldn't work for me. My computer even boots up faster now :)