Question Win7 PC Suddenly Fails POST

Mantrid-Drone

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I think I know what the problem is I just want to check what will happen when I apply the 'fix' as I've never had to do this before.

This bit is just for informational purposes really:-

Win7 Pro GA Z77 MBoard i5-3550 16GB Kingstone RAM MX500 SSD primary drive.

Symptoms: with no previous issues PC now won't cold start by PS/2 keyboard.

Using main power button it boots direct into the BIOS screen with a message that the BIOS has been reset and offers a couple of options.

I try rebooting without altering anything and eventually get Windows diagnostic options when it fails POST at the Windows launch screen. Windows says it can't fix the problems which it 'suggests' are due error code 0x490 system file integrity check and repair failed and may be due to 'unspecified changes to the system configuration' or, elsewhere it suggests it may be due to hardware changes or failure.

I try rebooting again and go into the BIOS (Del) and see some of the few settings I chose had changed including the keyboard start return to the Default=OFF.

Left it overnight and when I tried keyboard start the next day it failed and I had the same BIOS reset warning screen again.

Decided to reset to 'optimized' defaults with the exception of the PS/2 keyboard, shut down and restarted. Keyboard start works but again Windows fails to launch at the same place.

Eventually try Windows Memory Test and then Memtest86 from disc as the only other problem I've had with PC was a bad, secondhand, RAM stick which went bad out of the blue and caused a range of problems. Both the tests showed RAM is perfect, so definitely not the issue.

Right from the start my first thought was CMOS battery failure but my one experience of that with a laptop is that it continued to work using the original default BIOS version. But until I researched a bit I had not realised that type of problem can cause serious Windows boot issues too. In fact there are multiple sources in a variety of forums that say the same thing.

So I'm now thinking that as the MB still has its original CMOS battery which, depending how long it was on the shelves before I bought it, could easily be over 12 years old and that was the age at which the laptop (not replaceable) one went too. Coincidence?

Seems the most likely explanation in this case Y/N? Will there be any problems caused by replacing it?
 

Iron Woode

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If a new battery doesn't fix it then you will have to do a repair install of 7. That may or may not be easy depending on various factors.

 
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Mantrid-Drone

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Repair install of Windows can only be done if you can log in to your account and as I can't do that as it is failing the POST it would have to be a fresh install.

That is my worst case scenario.
 

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Failing CMOS battery has typical symptoms but then there are these edge cases where it causes weird things you wouldn't think attributable that seem it shouldn't be the CMOS battery. Worth tossing in a fresh one. CR 2032. Might have to reset/clean CMOS via procedure outlined in user manual for your board. And then you'll need to enter BIOS and configure all the settings back to what you want, including time and date.
 

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If you Google CMOS battery failing symptoms, as said earlier, you can find plenty of reports dating back years that it can affect the PC start up and often prevent it from booting. Numerous cases too where simply replacing the battery fixed the problem 100%. In my case the fact is the CMOS battery must be in that end of life period 12+ years.

If I leave the PC in question off without any attached power for 12hrs the PC still starts as normal with the BIOS logo on screen (normal) and single, normal beep. However, the first screen that appears is not a Windows BSOD or Windows failing to load, retrying and then going to a Windows repair/boot option but the Gigabyte MB telling me the BIOS has been reset.

That has to be the most relevant clue, surely.

I've taken the precaution of downloading on another PC the last three BIOS available from Gigabyte for that particular Z77- DS3H MB so, if necessary, and it probably will be, by using their Q-Flash facility from the BIOS menu.
 

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If you Google CMOS battery failing symptoms, as said earlier, you can find plenty of reports dating back years that it can affect the PC start up and often prevent it from booting. Numerous cases too where simply replacing the battery fixed the problem 100%. In my case the fact is the CMOS battery must be in that end of life period 12+ years.

If I leave the PC in question off without any attached power for 12hrs the PC still starts as normal with the BIOS logo on screen (normal) and single, normal beep. However, the first screen that appears is not a Windows BSOD or Windows failing to load, retrying and then going to a Windows repair/boot option but the Gigabyte MB telling me the BIOS has been reset.

That has to be the most relevant clue, surely.

I've taken the precaution of downloading on another PC the last three BIOS available from Gigabyte for that particular Z77- DS3H MB so, if necessary, and it probably will be, by using their Q-Flash facility from the BIOS menu.
The most likely thing to change by the CMOS battery going bad - causing the BIOS settings to reset, in any PC, especially one that old, is the storage device addressing mode. A lot of old machines defaulted to IDE (even with a SATA drive), when it probably should be set to AHCI.

Many Dells defaulted to an array setup. I used to change this to AHCI, but invariably, if the battery went bad, it would change back. I finally just started leaving it that way.
 
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Mantrid-Drone

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That's useful info - I was trying to remember if I had to change that setting myself.

On my other Win7 PC with another Gigabyte MB I have a full WinXP installation set up for dual boot. But the hassle of swapping the settings from AHCI to IDE for that, then back again and other unavoidable annoyances means I haven't actually booted WinXP on that PC in over ten years.

I later installed it on a VM instead (XP Mode) and if I've needed WinXP, usually for particular video gaming reasons, which itself is rare, that is what I've used.
 
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