Win7 OEM vs Full Retail

prism

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So I'm gonna make the jump from my circa 2001 Windows XP Professional OEM disc I got from college (no service pack on it :)) to Windows 7 x64 Home Premium. Is the only difference between OEM and Full Retail the lack of pretty packaging and tech support? I notice a large price difference between the two...

P.S. Windows 7 Home Premium does include Windows Media Center, right?...
 

RebateMonger

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All versions of Win7 except Starter and Home Basic include Windows Media Center.

Differences between Retail and OEM versions of Windows:

1) Retail support comes from Microsoft. OEM support comes from System Builder.
2) Retail version can be moved to new motherboard. OEM cannot.
3) Retail version can be used for either a full install or an in-place upgrade. OEM can only be installed on an empty partition.
4) Retail version includes Key attached to folder in package. OEM Key is on a "COA" sticker that is required to be attached to the case of the PC where the software is installed.
5) Retail version software can be resold even after it's opened. OEM version software can't be resold once the seal is broken. The OEM software can only be resold as part of the complete PC system where it was originally installed.
 
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EDIT: Monger has you straightened out :)
 
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prism

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Ouch, that no moving to a new mobo is really a killer. My old XP OEM disc has been on 3-4 mobos with no problem :(
 

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Ouch, that no moving to a new mobo is really a killer. My old XP OEM disc has been on 3-4 mobos with no problem :(
The basic "rules" for Windows OEM software have been the same since at least Windows 95. Activation (introduced with XP) and Microsoft PR efforts have heightened public awareness of the Microsoft OEM EULA (End User License Agreement).
 
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The "rules" for OEM have been the same since at least Windows 95. Activation (introduced with XP) and Microsoft PR efforts have heightened public awareness of the Microsoft OEM EULA (End User License Agreement).

So technically I can still keep using the Win7 OEM disc on new mobos if I upgrade my system in the future? That's all I'd care about; I have no intentions of resale.
 

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So technically I can still keep using the Win7 OEM disc on new mobos if I upgrade my system in the future? That's all I'd care about; I have no intentions of resale.

There is nothing from a technical standpoint that would stop you from using the OEM DVD. You might have to call in and do a little social engineering.
 

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2) Retail version can be moved to new motherboard. OEM cannot.

Are you 100% sure on the new motherboard issue? Reason I ask having to reinstall windows everytime you had the PC shop where you bought the PC replace the mobo sounds like ass. Seems hard on the system builder.

Then again new mobo = new chipsets and have to install new hardware drivers anyway..
 

pcgeek11

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Originally Posted by RebateMonger
2) Retail version can be moved to new motherboard. OEM cannot.

Are you 100% sure on the new motherboard issue? Reason I ask having to reinstall windows everytime you had the PC shop where you bought the PC replace the mobo sounds like ass. Seems hard on the system builder.

Then again new mobo = new chipsets and have to install new hardware drivers anyway..

It is the truth. The OEM version is tied to the motherboard it was originally installed on. It cannot be moved to a new MB without violating the end user license agreement with MS which you would have to agree to to install the OS.

That is also one of the reasons it is Much cheaper to purchase vice retail.

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Meghan54

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Are you 100% sure on the new motherboard issue? Reason I ask having to reinstall windows everytime you had the PC shop where you bought the PC replace the mobo sounds like ass. Seems hard on the system builder.

Then again new mobo = new chipsets and have to install new hardware drivers anyway..



[FONT=&quot]Operating System Licensing Q&A[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Please Note: This Q&A is provided solely for informational purposes. Your use of Microsoft Software Products is governed by the terms and conditions of your licensing agreement.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]For more information on licensing please visit http://www.microsoft.com/licensing [/FONT][FONT=&quot]or http://www.microsoft.com/education/HowToBuy.mspx [/FONT]



[FONT=&quot]6. What is the difference between OEM product and Full-Packaged Product (FPP)?[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]
ANSWER. OEM products are intended to be preinstalled on hardware before the end user purchases the product. They are “shrink wrapped” and do not come in a box like the retail products do. Full-Packaged Product (FPP) is boxed with CD(s), manuals, and the EULA and is sold in retail stores in individual boxes. The End User License Agreements (commonly referred to as “EULAs”) for OEM and FPP products are slightly different. One main difference is that an OEM operating system license (such as the license for Windows) cannot be transferred from its original PC to another PC. However, the FPP version of Windows may be transferred to another PC as long as the EULA, manual and media (such as the backup CD) accompany the transfer to the other PC. Also, when a customer purchases an OEM product, the OEM license requires the OEM to provide support for the product. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]9.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Can I transfer my operating system license from an old PC to a new one?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ANSWER. Not unless it was purchased as a Full-Packaged Product from a retail store (i.e., Windows in a box). Current OEM licenses for all Microsoft operating system products are not transferable from one machine to another. The End User License Agreement (EULA) governs the terms for transfer of licenses. Some EULAs for copies of certain older OEM operating system products (i.e., MS-DOS®, Windows® 3.1, and Windows for Workgroups 3.1) distributed in 1995 or earlier may permit transfer of the OEM operating system software license under limited circumstances. (See Software Product Transfer section of your End User License Agreement.) [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]10.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] If I “retire” a PC with an OEM license on it, can I use that software on a new PC?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ANSWER. No. To put it simply, OEM product is “married” to the original PC on which it was installed. Current OEM licenses are not transferable from one machine to another. The software cannot be moved from PC to PC, even if the original PC it was installed on is no longer in use. This is true for all OEM software – operating systems and applications.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] 12.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] If I upgrade some of my PC components, do I have to purchase a new operating system?
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[FONT=&quot]ANSWER. The answer depends on the components that are upgraded or changed in the PC. The operating system licenses must remain with the device that retains the motherboard, chipsets, and chassis that include the serial number of the device. The operating system may be installed on a new/replacement hard drive as long as the operating system is first removed from the old hard drive. [/FONT]



Of course, there is the ability to get a new motherboard replaced if the old one fails, but OEM OS's can be funny about getting reactivated....all depends upon the CS operator you get on the phone.
 

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What can physically be done and what is in compliance with Microsoft's licensing agreements are often different. It's not uncommon to "get away with" installing a generic OEM Windows disk on various motherboards over the years and have no Activation issues as long as the previous copy of Windows isn't being used.

Windows installations from name-brand OEM disks (such as Dell or HP) will refuse to Activate online if a non-Dell (or non-HP) motherboard is used and Activation is attempted using the OEM COA Key on the side of the computer case.

Microsoft's OEM licensing terms make it pretty clear that MS doesn't want you to re-use OEM licenses on new PCs. In many cases, especially in home use, enforcement of the license agreement depends on your own ethics.
 
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Wow interesting information on the Mobo issues guys. Now I under stand why the heck Abbu (M$ activation tech) ask me a ton of questions every time I used to reinstall my XP every month or two.. LOL

If I am not mistaken you cant upgrade for the heck of it, but shouldn't they allow you to have your mobo replaced in case of accident like a voltage regulator blows? I think you have to feed them this line for them to enable it for activation in their system.

Correct me if I am wrong here guys..
 

pcgeek11

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If I am not mistaken you cant upgrade for the heck of it, but shouldn't they allow you to have your mobo replaced in case of accident like a voltage regulator blows? I think you have to feed them this line for them to enable it for activation in their system.Correct me if I am wrong here guys..

You can have a motherboard replaced if it is damaged. The only catch is it has to be an OEM Approved replacement and not just for upgrading purposes. The OEM EULA allows for this.

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I am going through this now. My motherboard had problems and my retailer installed a new motherboard. Now Windows 7 (OEM) wont activate. It is turning out to be a nightmare
 

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Ok, here is my problem.

I live in China. I wanted to buy a PC but there are few prebuilt options here (other than Dell and even then gettng an English OS and a decent videocard is problematic). Anyway - I prefer to pick my own bits.

I went to a few computer shops and all wanted to install a pirated copy of Windows. I eventually found a retailer that could build a system using Win 7 Professional OEM. All was well with the system but I had problems with my Asus P5Q3 which didnt like my RAM.

In the end I replaced the motherboard with a Gigabyte (through the same retailer) and all was well until I tried to activate Windows. My copy of Win 7 is linked to the bios on my Asus moterboard.

I have phoned MS to explain the situation (as has the retailer) and MS is saying because the company that built my PC isnt a bulk reseller (e.g. Dell) they wont help - even though the company bought the OS directly from MS.

I am not very amused to say the least.
 

13Gigatons

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Ok, here is my problem.

I live in China. I wanted to buy a PC but there are few prebuilt options here (other than Dell and even then gettng an English OS and a decent videocard is problematic). Anyway - I prefer to pick my own bits.

I went to a few computer shops and all wanted to install a pirated copy of Windows. I eventually found a retailer that could build a system using Win 7 Professional OEM. All was well with the system but I had problems with my Asus P5Q3 which didnt like my RAM.

In the end I replaced the motherboard with a Gigabyte (through the same retailer) and all was well until I tried to activate Windows. My copy of Win 7 is linked to the bios on my Asus moterboard.

I have phoned MS to explain the situation (as has the retailer) and MS is saying because the company that built my PC isnt a bulk reseller (e.g. Dell) they wont help - even though the company bought the OS directly from MS.

I am not very amused to say the least.

Should have told them you replaced the hard drive.