Win7:is it possible YET to make a user assigned admin rights the same as the real one

[alkemyst]

Every once in a while I get errors installing a new program. Access denied, can't find file, etc.

I always have to do the set administrator active trick and log in as it.

It's PITA.

I have all UAC off already.

 

[Lifted]

UAC and the administrator access token are the only difference between the built in administrator account and an account in the administrator group.

How do I run an application once with a full administrator access token?

 

[alkemyst]

UAC and the administrator access token are the only difference between the built in administrator account and an account in the administrator group.

How do I run an application once with a full administrator access token?

There is something else that's needed. Running them 'as admin' doesn't change the behavior.

 

[yinan]

Why or why do you do this? UAC in its base for mon WIn7 is good at making sure you know what you are doing, and if something tries to install it notifies you? It is really good for security. Are you going to come back in a week asking for help removing a virus?

 

[alkemyst]

WTF??!?!

I am a long time system admin. UAC is not what's going to make or break me getting a virus.

If you don't know what I am talking about needing, please don't respond.

Here is a good example that lead me to having to go in as the true admin.

I was getting error 2203 and also not able to find certain files that did exist in the directory it was pointing to.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...s/thread/26612c4b-5b83-4259-97a1-74f618e25073

running as an admin did not solve the issue.

I had to activate the local administrator account and login under it.

 

[Lifted]

I was getting error 2203 and also not able to find certain files that did exist in the directory it was pointing to.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...s/thread/26612c4b-5b83-4259-97a1-74f618e25073

running as an admin did not solve the issue.

I had to activate the local administrator account and login under it.

That isn't normal behavior, and I've never seen it with Windows 7 (nor during my limited use of Vista). Somewhere in that users profile the ACL's are off, and the person probably would have had the same success if they created a new account and added it to the admin group.

Assuming this is on your home computer, if you run into it again try creating a new account in the admin group and see if the install/uninstall works.

 

[Nothinman]

Every once in a while I get errors installing a new program. Access denied, can't find file, etc.

I always have to do the set administrator active trick and log in as it.

It's PITA.

I have all UAC off already.

Weird, I have yet to get an error installing an app on Win7 that wasn't the fault of the installer with UAC set at the default level. The only things I can think of that gave me issues were Cisco's CCX desktop apps and they said that I had some incompatible program installed but wouldn't tell me what it was.

 

[alkemyst]

That isn't normal behavior, and I've never seen it with Windows 7 (nor during my limited use of Vista). Somewhere in that users profile the ACL's are off, and the person probably would have had the same success if they created a new account and added it to the admin group.

Assuming this is on your home computer, if you run into it again try creating a new account in the admin group and see if the install/uninstall works.

It's a known issue that happens in Win7 and previously Vista.

 

[Lifted]

It's a known issue that happens in Win7 and previously Vista.

link to kb?

i'm not doubting you, i'd just like to know more about it.

 

[JackMDS]

This is Not a kb but it is on MSDN Blog.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/ar...-to-repair-file-and-registry-permissions.aspx

P.S. It is one of the links on the Microsoft Forum thread posted byalkemyst.

 

[Lifted]

This is Not a kb but it is on MSDN Blog.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/ar...-to-repair-file-and-registry-permissions.aspx

P.S. It is one of the links on the Microsoft Forum thread posted byalkemyst.

I saw that, but the title doesn't indicate it's a bug in Windows that Microsoft needs to fix, unless the registry permissions are being changed as the result of a bug and not some rogue application.

Solving setup errors by using the SubInACL tool to repair file and registry permissions

 

[Ross Ridge]

No user on Windows is guaranteed to never get an access denied error. While the Administrator account and members of the Administrator group normally are given full access to pretty much everything, ACLs can still be set on files (and registry) entries that deny them read, write, delete, and other kinds of permissions. The only special power the admin accounts have is take ownership of files and change the permissions of files. While being able to change the permissions ultimately gives an admin account ful control over the system, most applications, including installers, won't try to force things by changing permissions when they get accessed denied errors.

There's really nothing you can do fix this other than ensuring no ACL on the system will ever deny an admin access. This is basically what the script in the MSDN blog linked above tries to do.

 

[alkemyst]

i had already ran that.

 

[Modelworks]

If you run multiple OS that access the same drives it can get very annoying with permisions and ownership of files. One easy way around it is to format the drives as exFat. The only thing you really lose is the headache of permissions.

If you also run linux then you can format as ext2 and install the ext2 driver in windows.
http://www.fs-driver.org/

 

[alkemyst]

No multiple OSes are being ran.

Simple Windows 7 installation with one user (an Admin).