Win7 for a *very* old and slow PC - MUCH better than XP!

flexy

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We have this ancient "Media PC" which merely serves the purpose for file sharing over the network and playing Movies on the big screen.

This PC is so ancient, it has a AMD 3500+, 1GB Memory and some old HDs. Two years or so ago I put an AMD 4350 card in it since this is a good Multimedia graphics card for that purpose.

For YEARS, I ran XP on the machine and didn't even think about changing to Win7, mainly because of the only 1GB ram and the purpose of the machine.

Well for some reason the XP install was trashed two days ago and I unsuccessfully tried to restore it, so at some point I just said *** it and installed Win 7 X86 Ultimate on it.

Yes, Ultimate, not some "tiny" or some "tweaked, mini Win7" version. (All other PCs here already have Win7 on them).

It was ENTIRELY worth it and the PC does in fact seem much faster and much, much more reliable. Super fast boot too! I was really thinking that Win7 would slow the machine down respective initially thought that it might not work at all with only 1GB Ram.

What I did
* ....changed to a Basic theme without Aero.
* removed/disabled cr@p like Homegroups, Gadgets and most "features" which come with Win7.
* disabled some services where I know I don't need them

What's great is not only that the PC is snappier and more reliable, also some old but cool programs (some which cause problems on Win7 x64), such as rmclock (a tool which clocks down the CPU depending on CPU usage) all works flawlessly as they did before in XP.

It just made me realize again what a really sharp OS Win7 is and there is A TON to tweak so it can even run on very, very old hardware where I didn't even think of that it would make sense to install Win7 on it.

PS: The PC also has some ancient opticals and the DVD pukes out and is not reliable, so what I did made a bootable USB stick with Win7 using PowerISO. Absolutely fantastic, simply loaded PowerISO, selected "make a bootable USB stick" and the Win7 ISO...very cool and easy.
 
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This is exactly what happened to me. However my PC isn't that old. It was just a year old desktop PC but I chose to leave XP on it for the idea that Windows 7 would just slow down my PC especially that I was playing a lot of games (I only have 2GB RAM and 1GB GPU). However when I found out last year that XP support will be diminished, I decided to install Windows7 and I was surprised that my PC got even faster and it did not affect my gaming experience at all!
 

Matt1970

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I am glad you think Windows 7 on one gig of ram is snappy. You must not have anti-virus on there yet or more than one tab open. The difference between 1 GB of ram and 2 GB of ram with Vista/7/8 is night and day.
 

pcslookout

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I am glad you think Windows 7 on one gig of ram is snappy. You must not have anti-virus on there yet or more than one tab open. The difference between 1 GB of ram and 2 GB of ram with Vista/7/8 is night and day.

Yep.
 

pcslookout

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If you think that is old then you haven't tried nothing yet.

I installed Windows 7 on a old desktop pc. P4 1.6 Ghz, 512 mb of ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive. It actually wasn't that bad but I wouldn't recommend it.
 

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If you think that is old then you haven't tried nothing yet.

I installed Windows 7 on a old desktop pc. P4 1.6 Ghz, 512 mb of ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive. It actually wasn't that bad but I wouldn't recommend it.


Similar specs to my mum's PC ,we upgraded the ram from 1GB to 2GB but XP still felt slow, so we threw out the 20GB HD and installed a nice 160GB for her and also installed Win7.

Her Dell P4 2GHz is running along much better now,my brother also won a cheap Geforce 2 PCI card for like 99p(about $1.50) lol so that should be better then the built-in IGP when it arrives(and yes she does play the odd game or two at nearly 70 years old ).
 

Gillbot

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I would suspect a fresh install of XP would be just as "snappy" as a new install of Win7.
 

Matt1970

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I would suspect a fresh install of XP would be just as "snappy" as a new install of Win7.

Probably even more so.

And Mem, I suspect your 20GB drive was UDMA66 at best so that in itself will bog down a machine. It might have infact been a 33

If you think that is old then you haven't tried nothing yet.

I installed Windows 7 on a old desktop pc. P4 1.6 Ghz, 512 mb of ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive. It actually wasn't that bad but I wouldn't recommend it.

Will it run on that? Sure. But you will be pulling your hair out waiting to perform the simplest of tasks. I just cannot express enough how going from 1GB to 2GB with Vista/7/8 will breathe new life into your computer.
 
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Did you have any problems finding drivers that would work with the new OS? I'm contemplating bumping up my other 3 XP systems to W7 but worry about the driver issues...
 

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I would suspect a fresh install of XP would be just as "snappy" as a new install of Win7.

Bingo.

There are two things right off the start that I can think of. If "Microsoft Updates" was turned on, that slows down XP machines on a fairly regular basis, switching back to "Windows Updates" increases speed like night and day on many systems.

Second, I don't know the explanation for this but after years xp runs slower and slower and slower, many times I've taken a hard drive from a computer, copied everything over to a new hard drive, then copied it all back to the original hard drive, this process of rewriting the filesystem often speeds up a slow computer immensely.

Throw out a 3rd possibility too, the XP installation and all the software and documents added on may have reached a, let's say not so good spot on the hard drive, causing system slowdowns, whereas the Windows 7 install hasn't spread to cover this spot on the hard drive, or something unimportant is sitting on that physical location.
 

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Wow I figured win7 would be much more bloated than XP and would not even install with only a gig of ram. Even XP is dog slow on only a gig because of how bloated it is. that's good to know.

Though Windows gets "used up" over time and slows down, so just the fact that it's a fresh install might have done the trick too.
 

flexy

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Did you have any problems finding drivers that would work with the new OS? I'm contemplating bumping up my other 3 XP systems to W7 but worry about the driver issues...

Nope, on my other machines I didn't need ANY drivers (!), but of course then get latest NVidia drivers etc.

On the old machine I have an exotic Audigy 2 Value, this was the only device i needed drivers for. Otherwise on my main PC, Audigy 2 ZS runs perfect with Win7 drivers.
 

flexy

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Wow I figured win7 would be much more bloated than XP and would not even install with only a gig of ram. Even XP is dog slow on only a gig because of how bloated it is. that's good to know.

Though Windows gets "used up" over time and slows down, so just the fact that it's a fresh install might have done the trick too.

It's bloated out of the box, but you can deactivate aero, uninstall features and a LOT of other stuff.

It's definitely a useable OS for that machine, then again I would of course never build a work/gaming PC with those specs and Win7, but that's not what that old PC is intended for. (Although I am sure I could put Office on there too for 'work' for having a backup).

Note: Although the PC is old and has only 1GB Ram, I am aware there are MUCH worse machines out there. My specs are actually "decent", considering the age of the PC:

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Matt1970

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All things considered a 4.3 isn't a horrible processor score. There were a lot of laptops being sold with Windows 7 that came with an AMD C-50 processor. I had a customer bring me one complaining it was slow and I think the processor score was a 2.8 and I told her to box it up and send it back. Like I said though if there was any way to upgrade that to 2GB you would see a world of difference.
 

flexy

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How can I make my older computer faster in windows 7 ?

* Set a basic, non-aero theme
* Disable "features" that are built into Win7 (Go to Search Bar, type features, "turn windows features on or off"), there you could basically deselect everything.
* Disable services like homegroup xxxx (if you don't use it, I dont), media center, media extender stuff, smart card, offline files, parental control, wireless stuff....LOTS of services you might not use.

Install a real browser (firefox) otherwise keep away bloat
 

pcslookout

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* Set a basic, non-aero theme
* Disable "features" that are built into Win7 (Go to Search Bar, type features, "turn windows features on or off"), there you could basically deselect everything.
* Disable services like homegroup xxxx (if you don't use it, I dont), media center, media extender stuff, smart card, offline files, parental control, wireless stuff....LOTS of services you might not use.

Install a real browser (firefox) otherwise keep away bloat

This will work even with a P4 1.6 Ghz, 512 mb of ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive?