Win2k or Win Whistler best performance in FAT32 or NTFS??

Wuming

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hmm... i would like to know too! i am using win2k under fat32 right now, cos using ntfs win98 won't be able to see it.
 

heng1028

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i am going to switch all my stuff to Win2k but it still doesn't support ATA100 yet

so i am kinda frustrated i can't run ATA100 in Win2k

I am wondering if NTFS is better??
 

Charles

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IMO, NTFS is better for Win2k. It's more secure and stable compared to FAT32. But it has compatibility problem with other OS, Including Win9x. So, if you don' t dual boot Win9x - Win2k. Use NTFS.
 

MulLa

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NTFS supports all the features that W2K is supposed to have. But most of them relates to security, file compression, disk quotas which arn't terriably useful in a home environment.

But someone pointed out to me that NTFS is slightly faster than FAT32 but barely noticable?? Oh and I believe NTFS is better against file fragmentation.
 

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I use NTFS for win 98. It lets me see NTFS partitions in Win 98. Works like a charm. :) I can copy/paste edit... do anything I want to that NTFS partition... through WIn 98. :)
 

John

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ata100 is supported w/ the VIA chipset if you use the 4.26 4-in-1's
 

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Lifer
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Yep thats it. :)

It was pretty easy to set up too (with the right instructions).
 

MGMorden

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One thing to remember is that NTFS is a journaling file system while FAT32 is not. That basically means that if the computer is turned off abruptly (ie, without shutting down) then the NTFS file system will suffer little to no damage while the FAT32 partition has the potential to be seriously damaged (and if you're in win9x and it freezes a lot this damage starts to add up and affect system stability). I would only recommend FAT32 if you really, REALLY need to be able to access the drive from an os without NTFS support (of course windows 9x has it as another user has pointed out and Linux has read-only support). NTFS is technologically superior by far.

 

heng1028

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John: when i installed the VIA 4in1 4.26, it said 'VIA BM DMA Channel' found
and i can't find anything for it

how can i find the right driver for this??
 

ALstonLoong

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ssp ,
Since you installed ntfs into your win9x or ME ..will there be any problem for you to install any games?Will the previous games installed in the win9x run in win9x with ntfs ?

alston
 

PliotronX

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Adding to MGMorden's reply, I've read that the NTFS doesn't fragment as quickly as FAT. Incidentally, not all hard drives are created equal for both NTFS and FAT partition performance. I've read on Storagereview that Maxtor drives perform very well with NTFS partitions, but average to above average with FAT partitions (this is kind of outdated, I haven't read about HDs in a while, but it's something to think about :)).
 

ALstonLoong

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well if you wanna defrag faster in ntfs you can use diskeeper. It fast and good( my opinion) why not give it a try

alston
 

robg1701

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YOU CANNOT INSTALL WIN9x on an NTFS partition. You can give it read only access (full read-write if you wanna pay for it) to NTFS partitions. However, as this is given on loading of the OS, and not natively, you cant boot the OS on a NTFS partition. It also wouldnt take well to a read-only environment if you could do it :p

Im dual booting 98SE and Whistler Pro Beta 1 (well, i cant really call it a dual boot, seeing as i havent booed into 98SE in 2 months :p) and tried the very utility that was mentioned, but it wouldnt work, giving me an error saying i should check that 2 of the files it required me to get from win2k were from the same installation. However, like i said, i dont boot 98 anymore and seeing as whistler can see fat32, i have the whole drive to play with anyway, so i dont care:)
 

Dulanic

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<< John: when i installed the VIA 4in1 4.26, it said 'VIA BM DMA Channel' found
and i can't find anything for it

how can i find the right driver for this??
>>



Just tell it to search for the driver.... then uncheck everything like floppy cd windows update and specify.... so everything is unchecked... it will find the driver already installed in the windows dir.

 

busmaster11

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In terms of pure speed, Fat(fat16) is fastest, followed by fat32, followed by ntfs. Fat uses larger clusters so the head doesn't have to pick up as often as fat32 for continuous data, and ntfs, theres all that security overhead, plus small cluster size.

However, fat 16 wastes a lot of space due to the fact that no more than one file can occupy a cluster; ie, with a 33k file and 32k cluster size, you're effectively using up 64k of disk space no matter what, using two clusters.

I'll stick with the overhead of NTFS5 and win2k...
 

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Lifer
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Quickfingerz
so do you run your win98/ME as an NTFS partition?

No, as someone already mentioned, you can't install Win 98 in a NTFS Partition. I have WIn 98SE on a fat32 partition, dual booting with Win 2K Pro.

I have the program on win 98, so I can check out my win 2k Partition if I needed to (saved my ass couple of times).

ALstonLoong
Since you installed ntfs into your win9x or ME ..will there be any problem for you to install any games?Will the previous games installed in the win9x run in win9x with ntfs ?

Check the above. I don't have win 98 on a NTFS partition. But yes, i can install/play games on my NTFS partition FROM win 98. It acts like a normal Fat32 drive. Except you cant format or run scan disk on it. Thats all. Other than that... its a just one of 4 partitions in win98.
 

OverclockMe

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NTFS totally rocks, if you are using 2k only, but if you are using duals, I would go with fat32