Win2k is unimpressive. Prolly gonna move back to NT4.

[OS]

Well, it's just that win2k is a hardware hog and my system seems to be slower than it was with NT4. Also, nothing is really noticeably improved (since I don't game too often). So I'll probably reformat back to NT4. Suggestions? Comments?

 

[IsOs]

If you have hardware that have no Win2k drivers & software like mine, Windows NT4 is better for us.

 

[brewty]

turn off all the eye candy on win2k and see how it is. win2k is more bloated than nt4, but i think the eye candy is one thing that makes it even more slow than it is. tweakui baby!

 

[OS]

well, I have drivers for all of my win2k stuff, but some aren't very mature (like my scanner). I guess for me, the main issue is that win2k seems significantly slower than NT4, but for very minimal benefits.

brewty, what do you mean by eye candy? I think I have some of it turned off, but could you clarify?

 

[SUOrangeman]

Again, many of the glitches and slowdowns that you all are seeing can probably be eliminated with updated *drivers* from the hardware manufacturers.

-SUO

 

[Wellcky]

Brewty.... when you mention "Eye Candy" are you refering to the Photshop plug-in??

 

[Celstar]

eye candy is a term to mean something that looks good i.e., candy for your eyes.

 

[Deeko]

Like how the menus fade in and out and that stuff

 

[riceboi5]

NT 4 was faster for me also than win 2k. The only reason I use win 2k is the hibernate feature

 

[ntuser]

I've got a Dual PII. After installing Win2K, I noticed the slower performance. I went through the Device Manager and changed the HAL from ACPI Multiprocessor PC to MPS Multiprocessor PC. After I did this and then got my hardware up and running, everything weas a little faster, but still not up to par with NT 4. I tried removing some of the system componenets and scale down on any features. Still, not up to par. I eventually grew tired of it and switched back to my NT 4 drive. It's a nice OS, but the ACPI in it, plus all the addon features, or eye candy, really slows down the system. I'm sure that's what it's for, to conserve power, but when doing so at a cost of performance is unacceptable. Linux is looking rosier and rosier.

 

[utopia]

same here, i wanna go back to NT4...

 

[OS]

wow, I was thinking that maybe I was the only person in the world who was unimpressed by win 2k. Nice to know that it's not just my imagination.

 

[tmchow]

Well it seems odd that there are a lot of people who are finding Win2k *slower* than NT4.

For myself and people i know, Win2k is either the same or *faster* than NT4. I've had basically ZERO problems with all the benefits of plug-n-play, etc etc.

The only thing I have a problem with is lack of suitable drivers for my hardware. However, that's my h/w manufacturers fault, not Microsoft.

 

[NFS4]

IMHO, NT4 is CRAP compared to Win2k. It's like night and day. Going back to NT4 would be like living in the Dark Ages.

 

[OS]

why do you say NT4 is crap?

I must say the most noticeable slowdown for win2k is the disk performance. win2k hits the disk really hard. And it generally feels more sluggish and less responsive than NT4.

 

[tmchow]

One thing that crossed my mind about people saying Win2k is "sluggish" is the possibility that DMA mode isn't enabled for your HD's?

That was one problem I had.. my CPU utilization went from like 95% to 5% after enabling it =)

 

[OS]

that's not it in my case, that's usually the first thing I check after I do a fresh install And in my case, the highpoint DMA 66 controller I'm using automatically enables it whenever possible.

 

[Sunner]

For anything but gaming, Id take NT4 anyday, its just sooo much faster, and eats way less resources.

 

[Nikepete]

Let's face it, NT4 is gone..No USB support, no power management, no PnP, clumsy DMA support, re-apply SP after any hardware change, no FAT32, lousy multimedia etc. to name a few. Win2K is better than NT4 in almost all respects. BTW, my Win2K setup is faster than my old NT4SP6.

 

[NFS4]

Nikepete hit the nail on the head.

 

[Sunner]

And for doing real work(yes there are people out there who dont just play games), how much of that do you need?
Bad multimedia?
It lacks DX(well, it has DX3, but who gives a crap), but thats just for games.
Aside from that, you can watch/create as much MM as you want.
USB, I agree, that is bad, but nothing critical, every comp out there ships with PS2 mice/keybs, and every USB mouse/keyb ships with a converter.
FAT32, again, in a corporate envoirment, who cares?
there is no reason whatsoever to use FAT32 if you can use NTFS, again this is from a corporate point of view.
No PnP, and yet again, this is a complete nonissue for corps, in fact I like not having that crap, but thats just me.
Clumsy DMA support, please explain?

 

[NFS4]

Those of you "complaining" about Win2k, what are your system specs? I mean, if you don't have the horsepower to run it, of course it's gonna be slower. And you don't think that all of those extra features are gonna come for free do you?

The USB thing is a biggy considering I use 5 USB devices, and setting up hardware on NT4 is a bitch!

I can play all of my games on Win2k, so I don't need to run NT4 and Win98 to be satisfied.

 

[Nikepete]

It depends on what kind of "real work" ! For number crunching, basic desktop tasks, NT is OK. But if you're involved in intensive graphic works, marketing, presentation, proposals, webpage design etc Win2K is way better. Try to run NT on a laptop and you'll see it sucks. Not even a DVD support. How about scanners? SCSI scanner is the only decent choice with NT but it adds a lot to budget. ICS ? For SOHO you'll appreciate this feature and NT doesn't have it. How about telecommuting, you'll like to have dual-boot to use the same PC for both home and work activities, this is where FAT32 comes in handy. Corporates will migrate to Win2K sooner or later. SP6 is probably the last SP from Microsoft and unless your work doesn't evolve, stick with NT. I've seen people still do work on NT 3.5 or DOS and they're happy as clams.

Clumsy DMA: must run DMAcheck and sometimes hack the registry to force DMA support.

 

[NFS4]

Yeah, bring it on!!

 

[riceboi5]

There is a prog called FAT32 for NT. It enables NT to read AND write to Fat 32 Partitions, once it's installed you'd never know it was installed!.

I'm also using win 2k server on my c2-896mhz w/ 192mb ram. Initially its fast, but after some use the IE 5 grows to use 70mb of mem. Wtf!.

NFS 4 from you description of what you do, your a home user (running games, usb, etc). So you should be running Win ME . hehe..