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Win 7 > Win 10... with brand new SSD...

looper

looper

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Just received the Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Glad that's over with.... I've been thinking about this purchase for 3 weeks...sheesh... It replaced my nearly full Intel X-25 160GB SSD. I won't install the Samsung right away.

Aug/Sept when Win 10 debuts I will do that... I think I get it free as I have Win 7 now. I will do clean install of OS onto empty new Samsung, then re-load everything ("The horror, the horror" )

Or, is there an alternative way?
 
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I personally have not seen that a clean install will be an option for the free upgrade. Well, not exactly (see next paragraph).

What I would do: go ahead and clone your Intel onto your new Samsung. When the time comes, upgrade to 10. If nothing else, you should have the option to do a clean re-install, as is offered in Windows 8/8.1 now.

Enjoy your new SSD until then!
 
ketchup79 said:
I personally have not seen that a clean install will be an option for the free upgrade. Well, not exactly (see next paragraph).
What I would do: go ahead and clone your Intel onto your new Samsung. When the time comes, upgrade to 10. If nothing else, you should have the option to do a clean re-install, as is offered in Windows 8/8.1 now.
Enjoy your new SSD until then!
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But, wouldn't a fresh install of Win 10 onto a new SSD be better than installing it 'over' Win 7?

So, you think I'll only get a free copy of Win 10 if it is installed onto/over the Win 7 OS?
 
Maybe you aren't familiar with the process.

Back in XP days, we had a "repair install" available. Basically blew away everything personal and took Windows back to the way it was. This went away for a few years and came back with 8. 10 appears to have the same.

When you upgrade to 10 from 7, you are going to have an upgrade license, not a new OS license. So when you go to install the OS on your blank drive with your new Windows 10 upgrade license, it is going to say something like "sorry, you can't do that."
 
When installing 10 you'll have the option to do a clean install (leaving only user files) or to attempt to transfer programs and settings as well.
 
ketchup79 said:
Maybe you aren't familiar with the process.
Back in XP days, we had a "repair install" available. Basically blew away everything personal and took Windows back to the way it was. This went away for a few years and came back with 8. 10 appears to have the same.
When you upgrade to 10 from 7, you are going to have an upgrade license, not a new OS license. So when you go to install the OS on your blank drive with your new Windows 10 upgrade license, it is going to say something like "sorry, you can't do that."
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So, I will have to 'image' over my Win 7 installation and all programs on my current, full, Intel SSD over to the new Samsung SSD...in order to get Win 10 free when it's available?

I will need a program to do that.... Samsung doesn't provide?
 
It does matter how much every one is "Drama Queening" since we all have to wait.

Microsoft did not yet made it clear about the ins and out of what would be all the condition of how the upgrades options would work.

There is No point to waste so much time, it not a Crucial Live time decision and energy it will be 30-60 minute (give and take) between different way of installation and activation.

If one can not tolerate the suspense, ask your Physician for Xanax or Buspar. :colbert: - :hmm: - :thumbsup:
 
I didn't realize I was "Drama Queening". Sorry, and I'll be careful about that in the future.

Based on info received above, I will clone old SSD over to new SSD, and then obtain free Win 10 as upgrade to Win 7 when available.

And the question that I then asked, which you did not answer, is what is a good prog to use for the imaging of the drive?

Thanks.
 
looper said:
I didn't realize I was "Drama Queening". Sorry, and I'll be careful about that in the future.
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I apologize, the remark was a General one and Not directed toward you in person.

looper said:
And the question that I then asked, which you did not answer, is what is a good prog to use for the imaging of the drive?

Thanks.
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IMHO it is Acronis True Image (Not free).

http://www.amazon.com/Acronis-True-Image-2015-PC/dp/B00O66G2UQ/ref=pd_cp_65_0

If One has the need to restore to do Universal Restore. I.e., to a computer with s different CPU/Chipset.

http://www.amazon.com/Acronis-True-Image-2015-3-User/dp/B00O66G5PS/ref=pd_cp_65_1

Many free looker use this - http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-drive-cloning-software.htm#reflectanchor




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IIRC your drive comes with a good cloning program. Sorry this thread got a little twisted, but I think you will be very happy with your latest plans.
 
JackMDS said:
I apologize, the remark was a General one and Not directed toward you in person.
IMHO it is Acronis True Image (Not free).
http://www.amazon.com/Acronis-True-Image-2015-PC/dp/B00O66G2UQ/ref=pd_cp_65_0
If One has the need to restore to do Universal Restore. I.e., to a computer with s different CPU/Chipset.
http://www.amazon.com/Acronis-True-Image-2015-3-User/dp/B00O66G5PS/ref=pd_cp_65_1
Many free looker use this - http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-drive-cloning-software.htm#reflectanchor
😎
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Roger that.

I'm pretty sure now that this Samsung 850 comes with a prog to do this.

And do I need this cable/adapter...
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-SATA-Drive-Adapter-Cable/dp/B00HJZJI84/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t

...Would be for cloning the current small Intel SSD in my desktop comp to the new Samsung SSD...
 
You could use the adapter. But I would just an extra sata port on the motherboard. Would be faster too.
 
firewolfsm said:
When installing 10 you'll have the option to do a clean install (leaving only user files) or to attempt to transfer programs and settings as well.
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Last I checked a clean install murdered everything on the driver. Gone. Nothing left. Clean fresh bare OS. That is all.
 
You can do a clean install of win 7,as long as you have your serial number,when the time comes it will update to win 10.

When booting from the installation DVD it asks you if you want to update or do a custom install,the upgrade option will keep your programms and settings.

I have win 10 tech on dual boot and everytime it wants to update it downloads the ~3gb of a full iso to a directory,it's only the files and not in iso form but it's pretty easy to turn that into a bootable dvd.
 
TheELF said:
You can do a clean install of win 7,as long as you have your serial number,when the time comes it will update to win 10.

When booting from the installation DVD it asks you if you want to update or do a custom install,the upgrade option will keep your programms and settings.

I have win 10 tech on dual boot and everytime it wants to update it downloads the ~3gb of a full iso to a directory,it's only the files and not in iso form but it's pretty easy to turn that into a bootable dvd.
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To me, taking the upgrade currently available on the technical preview to an iso for a full OS would take some assumptions, one being that the product key is valid for a fresh install. If previous versions of Windows are an indicator, this would not be possible.

None if this is set in stone, and I think the last decision of the OP on how to handle it is the best way to go about it, based on what we know now.
 
I haven't done a clean install in years since probably 2010. Did a Win 8 upgrade and everything went smoothly except for 1 program. I think I want to do a clean install this time around.
 
If I go the Win10 upgrade route I just want to be able to do a clean install, just so if I ever reload the OS I don't have to first load 7 then load 10 over it. That would be annoying.

When I went from Vista to 7 there was a way to install my Win7 upgrade license cleanly without having to load Vista first. Did that as I changed some other hardware at the time and I had a few bugs in my Vista install I wanted to be sure wouldn't carry over. Interestingly enough, I've never done it again since I've never had a need to reload my Win7, so maybe it is just a moot point.
 
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