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Win 7 doesnt initiate with cloned HD

soldano

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I use Win 7 Ultimate 64, with a SATA HD and 3 partitions, as I was afraid to have problems with that HD, I cloned it to an identical capacity also SATA HD using Acronis True Image 11.-
I installed the cloned HD in my computer and disabled the old HD, Windows booted OK, it continued with the normal display and a legend about configuring the desktop appeared, but afterwards it stucked at the next display were a legend about Windows not being original appeared at the right bottom.-
I tried several times the Windows repair option of the CD installer but no way, the same issue was present .
Also tried no only disabling, but disconecting the old HD
So I had to go back to the old HD with which to the moment Win 7 Works OK
I need a solution please
 
I use Win 7 Ultimate 64, with a SATA HD and 3 partitions, as I was afraid to have problems with that HD, I cloned it to an identical capacity also SATA HD using Acronis True Image 11.-
I installed the cloned HD in my computer and disabled the old HD, Windows booted OK, it continued with the normal display and a legend about configuring the desktop appeared, but afterwards it stucked at the next display were a legend about Windows not being original appeared at the right bottom.-
I tried several times the Windows repair option of the CD installer but no way, the same issue was present .
Also tried no only disabling, but disconecting the old HD
So I had to go back to the old HD with which to the moment Win 7 Works OK
I need a solution please

If you did clone everything, include the MBR, then it should have worked.
I would try the full clone again, shutdown machine when done, unplug old unit, then leave new unit in, and fix BIOS setting if needed, and it should boot into windows again.
Once that is working, you can now plug in the old unit, and format it or whatever you want to do with it.
 
I stopped using Acronis and other "smart" cloning software a while ago.

First, it's not a verbatim clone. They give the partitions new unique identifiers. And then they're supposed to update the system hive, if it finds one, with that new data. Though this has the upside that if the original and cloned drives are both in the same computer at the same time, Windows won't complain about one drive being a dupe and marking that duped drive offline. But that's not a common scenario and it's not worth the trouble caused by messing with the internal partition IDs.

Second, I've also had a problem where Acronis cloned an AF-aligned drive and produced a clone that was not AF-aligned. This was a few years ago, so maybe newer versions of Acronis aren't quite so idiotic (though that version was supposedly AF-aware--which is kinda stupid, BTW, because if you look at the way that drives report their physical sector size, you'll find that about half of the 512e drives don't have a way to say, "hey, I'm really 512e and not 512n", which is why the smart thing to do is to never trust the drive and just assume everything is AF, which is what Windows does, but apparently not what this naive version of Acronis did).

Even when I've told it to clone the drive "as-is", I've noticed both Acronis and MiniTool often producing results that were slightly different (alignment and/or sizes off by a few KB or MB from the original).

Third, if you're doing recovery--cloning from a damaged-but-not-yet-dead drive to a new drive, you absolutely want a blind sector-by-sector clone. The first and last time I used Acronis for something like that, it just hanged for a very long time and then complained that there was a hardware error (no shit, Sherlock) and couldn't continue. A good sector-by-sector cloner won't be so stupid and will also produce a resulting disk that's easier to recover data from.

Aaaaaanyway, I much rather prefer blind, totally agnostic pure sector-by-sector clones. Those have always been problem-free (though they take longer because by virtue of being agnostic of the underlying file system, it doesn't know what is and isn't free space and copies everything, free space included). As an added bonus, with the partition identifiers unchanged, I've never had a problem with Windows asking for reactivation afterwards (the hardware ID can change, but it can also change with a firmware update of the drive, which is why Windows is tolerant of a drive's hardware ID change if not accompanied by changes to the partition identififers).
 
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before cloning,
there is one way to identify SSD/HDD stability.
ERASE; "fully & completely write 1's and 0's" to the new drive.
if it passes, it passes. if it's not successful, i'd check the drive again with different error checking software.
clones don't guarantee anything stable on stable hardware. raid systems with 3rd party software that check file integrity can still have trouble.
 
Hi,

At the shop I use Apricorn adapter with their software and the other one that I use Is Spotmau. Either one gives you exact clone without having to use a windows disk to do a repair to the boot mgr.
 
There seems to be sufficient numbers of people reporting issues when cloning WIN 7 OS using TI-11, particularly for Win 7 64bit. TI-11 is on that hairy edge of VISTA's introduction so ensure that you download all relevant updates for it (ie, the TI-11 package from support). If you still experience issues, then try another imaging software, even the subsequent version of TI.
 
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