Williams trial decided!

waggy

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Wow! jayson williams the guy who shot his driver and tried to make it look like a suicide was found NOT guilty on the big counts.

But found guilty of the rest. such as tampering with evidence.


though from what i had seen i agree with the verdict.
 

CPA

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I just read that the jurors still couldn't decide on the last two.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: CPA
I just read that the jurors still couldn't decide on the last two.

only one they couldn't decide on was reckless manslaughter
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: CPA
I just read that the jurors still couldn't decide on the last two.

only one they couldn't decide on was reckless manslaughter

It just popped in on CNN. Guilty of everything but reckless manslaughter. Looks like money wins again.
 

waggy

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Now big question. How is he guilty on the other if there was no "crime"? oooh this should fun to see.
 

classy

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I agree with the verdict. This was an accident. He should be guilty of tampering with evidence and the like, but no way he meant to shoot and kill anybody. His fooling around with guns finally caught up with him. One of his friends said one day he almost accidently shot him. I think it was an unfortunate accident that turned for the worse.
 
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Originally posted by: classy
I agree with the verdict. This was an accident. He should be guilty of tampering with evidence and the like, but no way he meant to shoot and kill anybody. His fooling around with guns finally caught up with him. One of his friends said one day he almost accidently shot him. I think it was an unfortunate accident that turned for the worse.

if you own a gun, point it at someone and it goes off and kills them you should be guilty of reckless manslaughter. You knew there was a chance that the gun could go off but didnt care.

add being drunk as a skunk and it should be open and closed. If you own a gun u shouldnt go near it when drunk, let alone load it and point it at someone.
 
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from the espn article-
"On the use of the gun, I think most criminal practitioners would say that the central issue was whether the use was reckless, and the jury divided on that issue."

how could being drunk and pointing a gun at someone not be considered reckless?
 

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classy

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To convict him of manslauhgter you would have to believe he pulled the trigger on purpose which would be "aggravated" or by accident which would be "reckless". But if you believe the gun went off by itself through malfunction, then automatically you would not find him guilty of manslaughter. They didn't decide or was hung on reckless. So for the most part this jury believed that the gun malfunctioned and went off by itself. He'll get some time though. He did pay this man's family though. He did that awhile ago.
 

Vic

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Reckless endangerment that results in a homicide is still a felony for the rest of us poor mortals. One that would most likely result in a 5-10 stretch.

Must be nice to be above the law... :disgust:
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
OJ wasn't found guilty either! :(

comparing this with OJ is just stupid.

Aggravated manslaughter was a ridiculous charge and they should never have charged him with it.

possesion of a weapon with criminal intent was just as stupid.

bottom line, he should have been charge with reckless manslaughter and evidence tampering, unfortunately the lesser charges really dont' carry much of a penalty without the reckless manslaughter charge.

the reckless manslaughter was a tough call and the jurors were hung.
 

jjyiz28

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i dont get it. i looked up "manslaughter" in the dictionary, this is waht it says.

the unlawful killing of one human by another w/o express or implied intent to do injury"

isn't this exactly what happened?? he accidently shot someone w/o any express to cause injury???
and how the hell do you accidently shoot someone? i understand accidently running someone over in a car. he just gotta be real reckless to do someone like that.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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You know, if I was a prosecutor these days I wouldn't even touch the trial of any celebrity. What is the point? They're not going to serve any time so I'm not wasting my time. Once again, lady justice chooses the money

This should have been so open and shut that the trial was a mere formality. I guess, once again, stupidity rules the day in the form of jurors who are so ignorant as to believe that the shotgun went off without Williams pulling the trigger. That and a judge who was kind enough to skew almost everything he could in favor of the defense.
 

PlatinumGold

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here's where i think the jurors really screwed up.

"he doesn't look like a criminal". well hate to break the news to these jurors, but someone that commits a crime (and Jayson Williams did commit a crime) IS a criminal, you can't acquite him of criminal charges because "he doesn't SEEM like a criminal".
 

ctcsoft

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Originally posted by: Marauder911
Money talks, 'nuff said. See OJ for reference.

Yep, pretty much the way it is.

I'm sick and tired of this B$hit! I hope someone shoots him and just claims, Oh I did
it on accident. The gun went off on accident.

B$hit....

This POS deserves atleast 30yrs.

Our justice system SUCKS!!! It's corrupt, inconsistent, and does NOT work.
 

ctcsoft

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Originally posted by: waggy
Now big question. How is he guilty on the other if there was no "crime"? oooh this should fun to see.

Its not fun to see the justice system fail.

I guess they figure this man needs a break because he is an Ex-NBA star and the victim was
just a limo driver.

A life is a life and Jayson took one. It wasn't on accident either. Money bought him his freedom and our system has failed once again.
 

ctcsoft

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
OJ wasn't found guilty either! :(

comparing this with OJ is just stupid.

Aggravated manslaughter was a ridiculous charge and they should never have charged him with it.

possesion of a weapon with criminal intent was just as stupid.

bottom line, he should have been charge with reckless manslaughter and evidence tampering, unfortunately the lesser charges really dont' carry much of a penalty without the reckless manslaughter charge.

the reckless manslaughter was a tough call and the jurors were hung.

Screw this POS. Agg. Manslaughter was a just charge.

He had no regards for human life and he tried to cover it up. Thinking only of himself and his life. Not the life he just stole from Gus.

You guys are blind. This immature POS needs to be locked up for a LONG time. He was even taunting Gus that night of the party and calling him names and a dumb m-fvcker.

And it turns out Mr Williams is the only dumb m-fvcker and he needs to be dealt with. Instead he skates and will have his freedom. Horse $hit!!!
 

jjyiz28

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the prosecutor had a witness, williams friend who was a globe trotter. he said that he saw him pull the trigger. this was after series of diff stories and what not. and of course eye witness is fallable. but still, it was damning testimony.

i watched the trial on courttv.