Will you acknowldge and accept the election if you candidate loses?

[lordtyranus]

As election day draws near, with our country so divided, I think its sad that people are so disgusted with the other side.

For the record, if Kerry wins, I fully support his presidency and hope he does well. I know some members of this forum would like to see the opposition fail.

 

[StageLeft]

A lot of democrats still think that gore won 2000, so it's likely that either side will have people whine, but it depends on the circumstances. Florida was somewhat complex, but if a state is more of a straight forward win/lose, then hopefully people won't bitch as much.

 

[Infohawk]

Your poll needs more nuance. It depends on the specifics. If Bush wins by 5% then yes, it's legit. If we have another selection then no, it's not legit.

 

[Rainsford]

As long as, in my estimation, the election was fair, I'll accept the results. That's how our system works.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

this poll is missing some options, like:
I am not a Bush supporter and will not accept a Bush victory.

 

[PingSpike]

It doesn't really matter does it?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
It doesn't really matter does it?

Well...if enough people don't accept the other guy's victory, we could have some real problems on our hands.

 

[Hammer]

if kerry wins, i will support him. i am an american after all. unlike those whiny babies from the '00 election.

 

[nageov3t]

of course.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Hammer
if kerry wins, i will support him. i am an american after all. unlike those whiny babies from the '00 election.

I think a lot of that complaining came about because we were unsure WHO had won. Personally I thought it was kind of pointless too, but there was plenty of whine from the right side of the fence too

 

[seawolf21]

I'll accept the election if the electorial vote reflects the popular vote.

 

[DT4K]

The general public will accept the outcome.
The liberals on AT P&N will whine and moan if Bush wins. They'll spend the next 4 years talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy that rigged the election.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: DT4K
The general public will accept the outcome.
The liberals on AT P&N will whine and moan if Bush wins. They'll spend the next 4 years talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy that rigged the election.

Of course I'm sure the totally normal and well adjusted conservatives will just sit back and relax if Kerry wins with a very Zen "Them's the breaks".

Heh, funny stuff.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: DT4K
The general public will accept the outcome.
The liberals on AT P&N will whine and moan if Bush wins. They'll spend the next 4 years talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy that rigged the election.

Of course I'm sure the totally normal and well adjusted conservatives will just sit back and relax if Kerry wins with a very Zen "Them's the breaks".

Heh, funny stuff.

We shall see. But I'd be willing to bet that you won't see a bunch of us mentioning the rigged election in every other post. Even if Bush won the popular vote and Kerry won the election. Most of us conservatives understand the point of an electoral college system and have tried our best to provide some basic "History of American Government" education.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: DT4K
The general public will accept the outcome.
The liberals on AT P&N will whine and moan if Bush wins. They'll spend the next 4 years talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy that rigged the election.

Of course I'm sure the totally normal and well adjusted conservatives will just sit back and relax if Kerry wins with a very Zen "Them's the breaks".

Heh, funny stuff.

We shall see. But I'd be willing to bet that you won't see a bunch of us mentioning the rigged election in every other post. Even if Bush won the popular vote and Kerry won the election. Most of us conservatives understand the point of an electoral college system and have tried our best to provide some basic "History of American Government" education.

Well I can't speak for the other "liberals", but unless there's pretty clear evidence of fraud, you won't hear anything like that out of me. I suspect many others will agree with me. Please stop making assumptions just so you can "prove" how mature and smart conservatives are, because the general evidence would suggest you guys are just as dumb/smart.

 

[arsbanned]

I'll accept it either way, but I do hope it's decisive.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Your poll needs more nuance. It depends on the specifics. If Bush wins by 5% then yes, it's legit. If we have another selection then no, it's not legit.

And if Kerry wins via a selection? Is it legit?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
For the record, if Kerry wins, I fully support his presidency and hope he does well. I know some members of this forum would like to see the opposition fail.

Well the current Regime is already a failure so we either continue failing or have a chance at success with new Leadership.

 

[Abraxas]

As much evidence as there has already been of voter fraud and illegal attempts to influence elections, from rumors of Kerry's campaign registering dead or ineligible voters to the head of Diebold, the voting machine manufacturer, stating it as his job to give Ohio to Bush, as well as more illegal purging, I think this election is already completely screwed. I think short of an absolute blowout, both sides are going to have grounds to complain about how this was handled and how it turned out. Though, by that tokem, since both did it, perhaps neither would have groudns to complain.

In any case, personally, it will come down to post election conduct. If you have a razor slim margin and the courts won't let you make sure it is correct, I think it would be wrong no matter who it was in favor of.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Well I can't speak for the other "liberals", but unless there's pretty clear evidence of fraud, you won't hear anything like that out of me. I suspect many others will agree with me. Please stop making assumptions just so you can "prove" how mature and smart conservatives are, because the general evidence would suggest you guys are just as dumb/smart.

I apologize. I didn't mean to lump you in with anyone. There are quite a few far-left members here who even 4 years later are still obsessed with the fact that Gore won the popular vote and are constantly mentioning how the election was "stolen" from him.

By the way, I voted today and ended up voting for a couple of democrats. And I voted against a state amendment to define marriage as man-woman. I really only take party-line sides when it comes to Bush supporters vs Bush haters.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
For the record, if Kerry wins, I fully support his presidency and hope he does well. I know some members of this forum would like to see the opposition fail.

Well the current Regime is already a failure so we either continue failing or have a chance at success with new Leadership.

Whether the Bush adminstration is a success or not currently is your opinion. But given that, are you saying you want him to fail (further, if you believe he is failing right now)?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Well I can't speak for the other "liberals", but unless there's pretty clear evidence of fraud, you won't hear anything like that out of me. I suspect many others will agree with me. Please stop making assumptions just so you can "prove" how mature and smart conservatives are, because the general evidence would suggest you guys are just as dumb/smart.

I apologize. I didn't mean to lump you in with anyone. There are quite a few far-left members here who even 4 years later are still obsessed with the fact that Gore won the popular vote and are constantly mentioning how the election was "stolen" from him.

By the way, I voted today and ended up voting for a couple of democrats. And I voted against a state amendment to define marriage as man-woman. I really only take party-line sides when it comes to Bush supporters vs Bush haters.

Hey, I'll be the first to agree that Gore is a non-issue, he has been for how many years now?

Edit: And I think I'd be remiss if I didn't point out I'm not a Bush hater (not saying you thought I was or anything...). I just disagree with him on several issues that are important to me. He might be a fine guy to have a beer with, just not my choice for President

 

[TheNinja]

Well the poll doesn't lie so far. According to the poll, nearly 46% of Kerry supports will bitch, moan, cry, whine, etc. if Bush wins. On the other hand, 10% of Bush supporters will do the same. Kerry supporters appear to be a fvckin bunch of babies who will only accept the election if their candidate wins. If you don't want to follow the rules of this nation or accept the outcome of the election then fvcking move to Canada.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
Well the poll doesn't lie so far. According to the poll, nearly 42% of Kerry supports will bitch, moan, cry, whine, etc. if Bush wins. On the other hand, 10% of Bush supporters will do the same. Kerry supporters appear to be a fvckin bunch of babies who will only accept the election if their candidate wins. If you don't want to follow the rules of this nation or accept the outcome of the election then fvcking move to Canada.

How scientific of you. A random internet poll where the 42% could be all Republicans for all we know is most certainly a good basis for your conclusion that "Kerry supporters appear to be a fvcking bunch of babies".

Of course even if that IS accurate, you seem to forget that the majority of Kerry supporters would accept Bush even given what he has done these past 4 years. Making conclusions about the entire group based on these poll results is kind of silly.

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TheNinja
Well the poll doesn't lie so far. According to the poll, nearly 42% of Kerry supports will bitch, moan, cry, whine, etc. if Bush wins. On the other hand, 10% of Bush supporters will do the same. Kerry supporters appear to be a fvckin bunch of babies who will only accept the election if their candidate wins. If you don't want to follow the rules of this nation or accept the outcome of the election then fvcking move to Canada.

How scientific of you. A random internet poll where the 42% could be all Republicans for all we know is most certainly a good basis for your conclusion that "Kerry supporters appear to be a fvcking bunch of babies".

Of course even if that IS accurate, you seem to forget that the majority of Kerry supporters would accept Bush even given what he has done these past 4 years. Making conclusions about the entire group based on these poll results is kind of silly.

Come on, even you have to admit that the democrats will bitch and moan to no end if Bush wins this close election. The republicans will complain as well, but i cannot forsee it being anywhere NEAR the problems the democrats will cause.

Not directed only at you: I just can't see how people who live in this country and understand the principles, laws, and rules would come out and say, "I don't accept them, unless the outcome is in my favor". So we just don't accept rules that we don't like now is that how it's going to work? That is the stupidist and most childlike thing to say. Fvcking babies. If the outcome proves one way or the other, whether it is by 48% or by .0000048%, it's the outcome and people need to accept it and live with it realizing that it is only fair for both sides to do it this way.