Will you 64bit or wont you 64bit

videoclone

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When windows XP 64bit addition comes out and the Athlon64 comes down in price will this configuration be the system to have or will the latest Intel offering still be king??

High budget Games will start Catering for the 64bit windows and 64bit Athlons don?t forget to take that into account.
the next Unreal already plans to be 64bit compatable.
 

batmang

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when the game i play REQUIRES it, i probly will. all i know is, the next system i get is going to be a long time from now, i still havent bought a new video card yet. donations are welcome,

GeForce4 MX 440's eat ass! HELP!

jauhnathon@yahoo.com - paypal!
 

MDE

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If it's convieniently placed on my upgrade road at little or no additional cost (student discount :)) I'll bite, otherwise I'll probably wait to see what happens.
 

BlvdKing

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Eventually yes, I think we all will. For my next computer though it depends on whether I can get a decently priced laptop with a Prescott or AMD64, then I will make my choice.
 

myocardia

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I personally have used AMD proc's exclusively for the past 6 years or so, so an affordable (A64 3000) 64-bit solution sounds quite interesting to me, especially when it gives a 3.2Ghz P4 a run for it's money in gaming. However, I'm still looking at the P4's, because of hyperthreading. I mean, if you can buy a 2.6ghz proc, then overclock it to 3+ghz almost every time, PLUS get 2 processors' power for the money...where's the drawback?
 

Maus

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Originally posted by: myocardia
PLUS get 2 processors' power for the money...where's the drawback?
Yes, but the efficiency of hyperthreading is already built-in to the benchmarks, I don't see two processors' worth of difference between the Intel and the AMD offerings, so the drawback is in fact the money :)
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Maus
Originally posted by: myocardia
PLUS get 2 processors' power for the money...where's the drawback?
Yes, but the efficiency of hyperthreading is already built-in to the benchmarks, I don't see two processors' worth of difference between the Intel and the AMD offerings, so the drawback is in fact the money :)
Maybe you should have a look at Duvie's research on HT, the one that's stickied at the top of the OCing page...
 

jhu

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Maybe you should have a look at Duvie's research on HT, the one that's stickied at the top of the OCing page...

that's not exactly 2 processors power. real multiprocessing gives better results
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: jhu
that's not exactly 2 processors power. real multiprocessing gives better results
Of course SMP gives better results, but at twice the cost! However, for the amount of money you'd spend on a P4C (now that AMD has forced them to lower their prices), where's the drawback?
 

JeremiahTheGreat

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However, for the amount of money you'd spend on a P4C (now that AMD has forced them to lower their prices), where's the drawback?


The draw back is still the money, because the P4 still costs more than the extra performance is worth. And its performance is not across everything, just video/audio encoding which I do maybe once every six months..

 

beatle

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Originally posted by: JeremiahTheGreat
However, for the amount of money you'd spend on a P4C (now that AMD has forced them to lower their prices), where's the drawback?


The draw back is still the money, because the P4 still costs more than the extra performance is worth. And its performance is not across everything, just video/audio encoding which I do maybe once every six months..


Not everyone uses their computer the same way you do. What might be optimal for you isn't always optimal for someone else. I don't game very much, but I do spend a lot of clock cycles on video editing/encoding.
 

Jeff7181

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Can we learn how to use the Italics and whatnot? :D

Anyway... yes, when a 64-bit version of Windows is available, and the major bugs are worked out, and the overclocking abilities of the A64 are a bit better, then I'll probably upgrade... assuming I have the money =)

As far as Hyper-Threading, games could really benefit from it when more sophisticated AI is used.
 

robcy

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I will give up my current win XP just the way I gave up my win ME, kicking and screaming. When I finnally get an MS product stable, and productive they change it. I need either a quicker learning curve or MS need longer product cycles. I guess I am SOL.
 

SpeedFreak03

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I just built a P4 with HT (2.6C at 3.12GHz) and I can honestly say that I see a difference. I have SETI@Home running in the background, assigned to one of the logical CPUs, so I don't notice it at all, but SETI is cranking out a WU every 2 hours. My buddies Barton 2500@3200 can't do that (he notices a slowdown when SETI is on, so he has to only let it run when his screensaver is on). Also my P4 smokes his completly when encoding video. Im happy with my P4, but my next upgrade will definetly be a 64Bit Athlon!

-Josh
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: robcy
I will give up my current win XP just the way I gave up my win ME, kicking and screaming. When I finnally get an MS product stable, and productive they change it. I need either a quicker learning curve or MS need longer product cycles. I guess I am SOL.

Learning curve? There hasn't been such a major change in Windows that it requires re-learning it since Windows 3.1 was replaced by Windows 95.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
If it's convieniently placed on my upgrade road at little or no additional cost (student discount :)) I'll bite, otherwise I'll probably wait to see what happens.

I've never heard of student discounts on CPUs... where are you getting these?

As for me... i'm currently running 3200XP+ speeds, so probably not until i upgrade next... which is about once a year. But when i do, most likely.
 

beyoku

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once you go dually you never go back. i will prob get a 2.2 dually opteron when they drop in price. Right now im running duall 1700's at 2.1. It is a great setup for multitasking.