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will Windows 10 be compatible with Linux Mint?

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]In order to learn about Linux, I first ran Linux Mint inside VirtualBox. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]After a while, I decided to install Linux Mint 17, dual-boot with Windows 8.1. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I've spent a VERY long time, googling for tutorials, tips, advice, etc. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I have[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]downloaded a Linux Mint ISO for DVD[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Disabled “Secure Boot”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Set the computer to first boot from the DVD drive. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Partitioned the hard drive[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Burnt ISO to DVD.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The dvd with the Linux iso spins a bit, then stops. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I've installed the Live distro on a pendrive. The Live distro does not start. It does not appear when I look at the pendrive's contents in File Explorer. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Anyway, I am not prepared to disable, permanently, Secure Boot. So Windows 8.1 is (for a beginner like me) incompatible with Linux Mint. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When it comes to beginners like me, will Windows 10 be compatible with Linux Mint?[/FONT]


 
Honestly, I would just keep it in VirtualBox.

I don't think W8.1 is necessarily incompatible with Mint, I think there may be some problem with either your installation media, or the procedure with getting your motherboard to boot from DVD or USB.
But I would expect W10 to behave identical to W8.1 in this regard.

But, unless you need 100% of your computer's resources when running Mint, I would just keep it in a VM and turn it on/off whenever you like.
 
You have it wrong, win 8/10 are not the problem here, it is UEFI & the secure boot "feature" that is causing you issues.

There are ways to install a linux distro on a UEFI system with secure boot on, but, it isn't pretty. The best would be just to disable secure boot, the ONLY purpose of that is to run signed programs, or in other words, they want $$$ so you can get a official signed key that will work.
Unless this is a publicly accessed computer, then leave secure boot off.
 
I don't understand what Windows 8 has to do with it. Secure Boot is completely inconsequential and isn't required to run Windows 8. It is a chipset feature. Disabling Secure Boot isn't going to suddenly make you more susceptible if you are prudent with how you use your computer. So, the question you are really asking is; are the security benefits provided by Secure Boot worth not using Linux in the way you would prefer?

Unless your computer is in a public area where strangers can insert in a thumb drive and rootkit your machine, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Beginner-At said:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]In order to learn about Linux, I first ran Linux Mint inside VirtualBox. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]After a while, I decided to install Linux Mint 17, dual-boot with Windows 8.1. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I've spent a VERY long time, googling for tutorials, tips, advice, etc. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I have[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]downloaded a Linux Mint ISO for DVD[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Disabled “Secure Boot”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Set the computer to first boot from the DVD drive. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Partitioned the hard drive[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Burnt ISO to DVD.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The dvd with the Linux iso spins a bit, then stops. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I've installed the Live distro on a pendrive. The Live distro does not start. It does not appear when I look at the pendrive's contents in File Explorer. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Anyway, I am not prepared to disable, permanently, Secure Boot. So Windows 8.1 is (for a beginner like me) incompatible with Linux Mint. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When it comes to beginners like me, will Windows 10 be compatible with Linux Mint?[/FONT]


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No. Secure boot is here to stay but you might be able to install Mint anyway or at least Ubuntu.
 
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Beginner-At said:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]After a while, I decided to install Linux Mint 17, dual-boot with Windows 8.1. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I've spent a VERY long time, googling for tutorials, tips, advice, etc. [/FONT]
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I'm guessing that the tutorials told you it is possible, right? So why start a thread saying the opposite? Are you saying all the tutorials on the internet are wrong?
 
Definitely UEFI and Secureboot issues.

My laptop also came with Windows 8 booting via UEFI. Had a difficult time installing Ubuntu. So, I set the BIOS to boot in legacy mode. And that required reinstalling Windows 8 onto a non-GPT partition. So, basically declined to learn UEFI for a few more years.
 
after failing to install linux mint on a windows 8.1 computer, there are these entries

bios >>> boot device options >>> boot manager

os boot manager
ubuntu (hgst ht, etc, etc)
ubuntu (hgst ht, etc, etc)
boot from efi file


how to uninstall that “ubuntu” stuff?


thank you very much, in advance, for any help
 
That is the bootloader from the installations you tried. Try a repair install with your Windows installation disk (you do have one, right? - or the Windows recovery media that you should have burned).


I am thinking of dual booting linux and Windows as well with EFI and Secure boot. Though I have not searched yet, I thought that it would be possible.
 
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thanks for your reply[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I didn't know the failed Linux installation had left those things on the computer (the computer works fine) so long after the failed Linux installation, I made[/FONT]



  • [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a new copy (the one I have) of the recovery partition[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a new, updated, system image[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]to replace the previous system image, and the previous copy of the recovery partition. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif](I have not modified the computer's original recovery partition)[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]My fault. [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Should I leave the computer as it is, or do something else?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Many thanks for your help[/FONT]
 
If you boot into Windows without problems, I don't think it's necessary to switch back to the Windows bootloader, although I don't know if Windows uses its bootloader to make any changes. If you try a repair from the installation disk or recovery media, it will put back the Windows bootloader.

You are probably using the GRUB bootloader which is a good one.


Edit. Since you are using Windows 8.1, there is another way to make the startup repair.
PC settings > Update and recovery > Recovery > Advanced startup > Restart now
After restart...
Choose an option > Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup repair
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I think people are confused as to what you mean by boot options. He clearly stated these are the options coming from the BIOS UEFI boot system. When he attempted to install the linux distro, it recognized the system as still configured for UEFI boot (not legacy), and modified the UEFI configuration files on the UEFI vfat partition of your boot hard drive to add those entries (for those who understand linux, UEFI is essentially a boot manager like lilo, grub, grub2, etc.).

Some BIOS's have a built-in editor that lets you add/remove options from the UEFI boot manager, and it is just a simple job of going into the BIOS boot options, and removing them (in most cases much like how you would simply remove/disable other boot options like floppy, USB, CD/DVD, network, etc.).
 
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Fallen Kell said:
When he attempted to install the linux distro, it recognized the system as still configured for UEFI boot (not legacy), and modified the UEFI configuration files on the UEFI vfat partition of your boot hard drive to add those entries
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The UEFI boot menu is actually not on the disk. It is on motherboard.
 
It depends on the PC,my lenovo Desktop does't have any function on bios to disable or enable secure boot,so i never could install Win10tp and Ubuntu with dual boot,i followed all instructions,i could install win10 tp then i tried to install ubuntu, but when i rich to the partitions it doesn't have an option to install along side win10,tried mo make partition but it installed Ubuntu but then i never could boot win 10,couldn't if see win 10,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd0AC8UMJ0I
 
Yeah, I had the same problem trying to use CloneZilla to image a new Dell laptop. I had to disable both UEFI and "Secure Boot" to boot the system from the DVD.

What is "Secure Boot" supposed to secure, anyway. The only thing is seems to be securing at this point is extra frustrations for Linux users.
 
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