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Will we see any benefit from what Bush is doing with the rising gas prices?

I believe the only way gas prices will go back to normal is through government intervention, so I believe that Bush is doing the right thing here. (Yeah I can't believe I said it either).
 
they are all buddies.. he has the goods on them and they have the goods on him.. if they want the politicians to keep their crimes hidden then they will help him with mid-term elections.
 
bush's moronic policies led to the current situation. Expecting that fool to help fix this problem he created is like expecting the devil to save you from hell.

His Texas oil buddies are making record profits. Does anyone actually think this wasn't the plan from day one?

If you do, you're possibly, if it is possible, dumber than bush.
 
It's all window dressing in a vain attempt to help his plummeting poll numbers. If bush wanted to do something about gas prices, other than raise them, he would have done it long before now.

bush and his buddies have reached their goal. Gas at over $3 per gallon and the worst CAFE numbers in history.
 
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
I believe the only way gas prices will go back to normal is through government intervention, so I believe that Bush is doing the right thing here. (Yeah I can't believe I said it either).
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What govt intervention will bring gas prices back down to "normal" levels?

I think the 300K will help but wont drastically do much of anything to change the price for us. The only way we will see the price go down is if we curb our use of the product.
 
we will see lower gas prices when we stop using so much! it's the best solution that people just don't want to hear about.
 
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Will we see any benefit from what Bush is doing with the rising gas
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Only if his ineptitude pisses enough off enough people to get the ball rolling on impeachment.
 
short term:
Drop the taxes on the federal, state, and local level.
adopt a cheap uniform forumula.

long term:
increase production of crude oil and refined fuel. -increase supply
increase efficency of fuel (not just cars) - lower demand.

 
As the newly-retired CEO of Exxon-Mobil said when asked about oil prices, no one came to their aid when oil was only $10 a barrel and they were hurting. How can we complain now that it's $75? From a business perspective, they are doing exactly what they should do. They have near complete control over a finite resource. They're extracting/refining their product slowly to keep supply low and prices high, thereby maximizing net income from their finite resource.

The people complaining about this are the people who have driven demand so high in the first place. Whining about their profiting is both ridiculous and pointless. You have two options by which you can make an effective statement: starting your own oil company or using less oil. If you choose the former, I'll be happy to consult on your refinery design. If you choose the latter, I'll see you on the bus.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: shrumpage
adopt a uniform formula.
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Can anyone explain why there is a different formula to begin with???

Do we have different engines for different areas of the Country? 😕
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Different areas of the country have different requirements for air quality.
 
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: shrumpage
adopt a uniform formula.
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Can anyone explain why there is a different formula to begin with???

Do we have different engines for different areas of the Country? 😕
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Different areas of the country have different requirements for air quality.
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That's just wrong, just like having the different blends is wrong.
 
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Different areas of the country have different requirements for air quality.
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It's also based on 'safety' considerations. Fuels must have a certain vapor pressure at the conditions where the fuel will be sold. This prevents you from blowing yourself up at the gas station.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Different areas of the country have different requirements for air quality.
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It's also based on 'safety' considerations. Fuels must have a certain vapor pressure at the conditions where the fuel will be sold. This prevents you from blowing yourself up at the gas station.
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That's bunk.

Flash point of gasoline is flash point of gasoline otherwise engines wouldn't run right.
 
Only Bush will see a benefit from the rising oil prices. He will act now as if he's trying to help us all with lowering gas prices, but they will probably still go to $4 to $5 a gallon. Then with a little help from his oil buddies gas prices drop precipitously just before the elections and Bush and the Repugs claim that it was on their part that gas prices fell. The Democrats fail to gain a majority in either the Seante or the House and Dubya avoids impeachment. Oh yea, and immediately after the election gas prices skyrocket again. You heard it here first.
 
It will make things easier in the short run. In the long run though, we will have to adapt to higher gas prices.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
As the newly-retired CEO of Exxon-Mobil said when asked about oil prices, no one came to their aid when oil was only $10 a barrel and they were hurting. How can we complain now that it's $75? From a business perspective, they are doing exactly what they should do. They have near complete control over a finite resource. They're extracting/refining their product slowly to keep supply low and prices high, thereby maximizing net income from their finite resource.

The people complaining about this are the people who have driven demand so high in the first place. Whining about their profiting is both ridiculous and pointless. You have two options by which you can make an effective statement: starting your own oil company or using less oil. If you choose the former, I'll be happy to consult on your refinery design. If you choose the latter, I'll see you on the bus.
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The people who drove demand this high are the people who came to Washington the minute bush and cheney were elected to write national energy policy.

Don't you get it? This is why cheney refused to release the names of the energy industry CEOs and the content of the meetings! Three dollar a gallon gas being guzzled by monster SUVs was the PLAN!

Look at the facts. Big oil is looking down the barrel of dwindling natural resources and the bush administration has allowed them to write America's energy policy with the goal of getting as much profit out of the oil reserves that are left as possible. That's it in a nutshell.

Oil is a finite resource. I heard a statistic on the radio today, America burns 384 million barrels of oil PER DAY. If the current administration was concerned about limiting our dependence on oil, they've had six years to do something about it. Yet they've moved in the exact opposite direction to MORE OIL DEPENDENCE.

Whenever anyone mentioned conservation to bush or cheney they acted as if someone put a knife in their hearts. Their only energy policy was MORE OIL -- OPEN UP ANWAR FOR DRILLING -- POUR IT ON!

That's because they and their energy industry buddies WANT exactly what's happening to happen. It's their plan. Maximize profits on the dwindling oil reserves. Squeeze every dollar out of what's left. Their plan is short sighted and bound to cause major disturbances in energy supply -- but they'll make as much money as possible while they can. And with this bunch of predatory capitalists in charge, that's all that counts.
 
Originally posted by: BBond
The people who drove demand this high are the people who came to Washington the minute bush and cheney were elected to write national energy policy.

Don't you get it? This is why cheney refused to release the names of the energy industry CEOs and the content of the meetings! Three dollar a gallon gas being guzzled by monster SUVs was the PLAN!

Look at the facts. Big oil is looking down the barrel of dwindling natural resources and the bush administration has allowed them to write America's energy policy with the goal of getting as much profit out of the oil reserves that are left as possible. That's it in a nutshell.

Oil is a finite resource. I heard a statistic on the radio today, America burns 384 million barrels of oil PER DAY. If the current administration was concerned about limiting our dependence on oil, they've had six years to do something about it. Yet they've moved in the exact opposite direction to MORE OIL DEPENDENCE.

Whenever anyone mentioned conservation to bush or cheney they acted as if someone put a knife in their hearts. Their only energy policy was MORE OIL -- OPEN UP ANWAR FOR DRILLING -- POUR IT ON!

That's because they and their energy industry buddies WANT exactly what's happening to happen. It's their plan. Maximize profits on the dwindling oil reserves. Squeeze every dollar out of what's left. Their plan is short sighted and bound to cause major disturbances in energy supply -- but they'll make as much money as possible while they can. And with this bunch of predatory capitalists in charge, that's all that counts.
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What, pray tell, is wrong with a company maximizing profits? Isn't that the goal of any company? Why does it suddenly become evil just because the company happens to peddle in oil? Why isn't McDonald's evil? They have a much higher profit margin than any oil company in history.

Bottom line: you are allowing them to profit by continuing to purchase their goods. You're pissed about it because you feel that you're personally dependent on their product and realize that, since you are addicted, you are at their mercy. I told you the alternatives, so pick one. In either case, quit your whining - it achieves nothing.
 
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