Will we ever see a woman play in the NFL?

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wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

 

AMDZen

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There could be a WNFL, but you cant make the current NFL co-ed simply because they would all get broken like twigs on the field. Its not sexist, its fact.

The only way this could possibly happen would be for an already man-women (girl born with too much testosterone in her body) to get a trans-gender operation - take more testosterone pills until she actually is a man. Except then she would be a he, and the original question is thrown out the window.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

Yeah, a woman could be a kicker or punter. And someone has to wash the towels after practice.
 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: FoBoT
kicker?

Do you know any female kickers that have stronger legs then the best male kickers in the country, and are physically able to handle tackling an NFL player if need be, or getting hit in the chops by some 280 pound linebacker?

I hightly doubt we will ever seen a woman in the NFL.

what about those olympics ice skaters...they got thighs bigger then 3 of me.
 

wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

feel free. i'm listening.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

Yeah, a woman could be a kicker or punter. And someone has to wash the towels after practice.

I don't think a team would want a women as a kicker or punter either. They will often times have to make plays too, like a kick off return coming back for a TD and the kicker is the last guy with a chance to tackle, women can't tackle men adequetly. And then there are onsides kicks where they're almost guarenteed to have to block. A punter may have to pull a fake, or at the very least see that a block is imminent and secure the ball or try for the 1st down. Why would a team want a women in that situation? She gets tackled, and she's out for the rest of the season.

Feminists are the only people who would disagree because they think their arguing for all womenkind or something. Meaning that rational women would agree with this too.

I can think of many things women can do that men can't and I'll never argue that men can hold with women at doing those things. Our bodys are different and genetics and science are more important when answering a question like this then some equality argument
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

Nope.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

feel free. i'm listening.
i wasn't thinking position as in football position.
read your sentence again.

 

wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: her209
I don't think there is a rule against females in the NFL so do you think we will see a one play in the NFL in our lifetime?

no way in hell.

sports like basketball and football really showcase the disparity in explosive strength between men and women, and there's just no way a female could come close to being useful to any team at any position. just not strong or fast enough.

that i will dispute.

feel free. i'm listening.
i wasn't thinking position as in football position.
read your sentence again.

ok lol. touche! i have been got. :eek:
 

pontifex

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there's a HS team in the central PA area that has a female player.

yeah, i know there's a big difference between HS and NFL but just thougth i;d through it out there.
 

vi edit

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Bahahaha. QB's have to have really strong arms. And they generally have to be tall enough to see over their linemen. Also, do you really think a woman would be more durable than a man? They get hit. A lot. Anywhere and everwhere. Have you ever watched football?

The ability to throw a football is more mechanics than sheer strength. Also, not every QB out there has the long ball ability of Brett Favre. There are many that are short distance throwers that still start.

As far as height goes, there are many QB's that are in the 6'0 - 6'2 range, by no means "tall"...for a woman yes, but look at the rosters for the WNBA and the olympic volley ball teams...there are some very tall female athletes out there. Obviously the "ideal" height is probably around 6'4"-6'5", but there are many exceptions.

Concerning durability, I think you underestimate how tough some women can be.

I watch college football every Saturday and the NFL every Sunday. The NFL is an elite crop of male athletes.

Have you ever watched any elite female athletes compete? Women can be taller, stronger, faster, and tougher than you give them credit for.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: pontifex
there's a HS team in the central PA area that has a female player.

yeah, i know there's a big difference between HS and NFL but just thougth i;d through it out there.

What position does she play and how often is she actually playing

Chances are she practices and sits on the bench during games
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
i wasn't thinking position as in football position.
read your sentence again.

Oh come on, do you have to make every thread about sex? You're worse than the pubescent males here. :roll:

Your joke would have made more sense if he said "in" any position, but he said "at" any position.
 

batmang

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maybe a kicker.... but anything else would be uncivilized. (bahahahaa!)
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: FoBoT
kicker?

Do you know any female kickers that have stronger legs then the best male kickers in the country, and are physically able to handle tackling an NFL player if need be, or getting hit in the chops by some 280 pound linebacker?

I hightly doubt we will ever seen a woman in the NFL.

what about those olympics ice skaters...they got thighs bigger then 3 of me.

And so does Sebastian Janakowski, whats your point?



To the poster above who said that Mia Hamm could outkick 98% of NFL kickers, well you're smoking crack. Sure, she could probably outkick your average male. But there is NO WAY she can outkick the top 32 NFL kickers. Not to mention actually play football, like the kickers have to do sometimes, rather than just kick.

It just will never happen. The best men are stronger than the best women. Just like the average man is stronger than the average woman.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: AMDZen

I don't think a team would want a women as a kicker or punter either. They will often times have to make plays too, like a kick off return coming back for a TD and the kicker is the last guy with a chance to tackle, women can't tackle men adequetly. And then there are onsides kicks where they're almost guarenteed to have to block. A punter may have to pull a fake, or at the very least see that a block is imminent and secure the ball or try for the 1st down. Why would a team want a women in that situation? She gets tackled, and she's out for the rest of the season.

Have you ever seen a kicker or punter try to make a tackle? :D They tackle like women. You're right though, a woman would have a harder time tackling a man. But you have to weigh all of the strengths and weaknesses and not just focus on one weakness. It's not often that the kicker DOES have to make a tackle, so if the woman could kick farther than a man it might outweigh the lack of tackling ability.

Probably won't happen though.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: pontifex
there's a HS team in the central PA area that has a female player.

yeah, i know there's a big difference between HS and NFL but just thougth i;d through it out there.

What position does she play and how often is she actually playing

Chances are she practices and sits on the bench during games

that i don't know. i just heard it mentioned on the radio the other day.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: AMDZen

I don't think a team would want a women as a kicker or punter either. They will often times have to make plays too, like a kick off return coming back for a TD and the kicker is the last guy with a chance to tackle, women can't tackle men adequetly. And then there are onsides kicks where they're almost guarenteed to have to block. A punter may have to pull a fake, or at the very least see that a block is imminent and secure the ball or try for the 1st down. Why would a team want a women in that situation? She gets tackled, and she's out for the rest of the season.

Have you ever seen a kicker or punter try to make a tackle? :D They tackle like women. You're right though, a woman would have a harder time tackling a man. But you have to weigh all of the strengths and weaknesses and not just focus on one weakness. It's not often that the kicker DOES have to make a tackle, so if the woman could kick farther than a man it might outweigh the lack of tackling ability.

Probably won't happen though.

I'll agree with you once I see a women that can kick a football with the distance and accuracy of the leagues current kickers/punters. And when there is a team/coach/owner crazy enough to sign that women. Until then .........

And as for the QB argument, what about fingers? Personally I think finger length and strength are as important as arm strength in throwing a football, and women have inherrently smaller and shorter fingers.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
Uh maybe they should have their own league. PTYs can get hurt playing with the big boys!

Thats what I'm thinking. Now a WNFL would be cool, I'd check it out.

Would the cheerleaders be male? That could ruin everything, and in which case I wouldn't check it out :D
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: AMDZen

I don't think a team would want a women as a kicker or punter either. They will often times have to make plays too, like a kick off return coming back for a TD and the kicker is the last guy with a chance to tackle, women can't tackle men adequetly. And then there are onsides kicks where they're almost guarenteed to have to block. A punter may have to pull a fake, or at the very least see that a block is imminent and secure the ball or try for the 1st down. Why would a team want a women in that situation? She gets tackled, and she's out for the rest of the season.

Have you ever seen a kicker or punter try to make a tackle? :D They tackle like women. You're right though, a woman would have a harder time tackling a man. But you have to weigh all of the strengths and weaknesses and not just focus on one weakness. It's not often that the kicker DOES have to make a tackle, so if the woman could kick farther than a man it might outweigh the lack of tackling ability.

Probably won't happen though.

Part of the "tackling like a woman" is due to them wearing a fraction of the protective gear compared to the rest of the guys on the field. It's also because they aren't as expendible as the rest of the special teams players. You typically have one place kicker and one punter, with somebody else that can fill in if need be. No where near the depth of special teams positions. I'm sure that has some role in their gingerly hits too.
 

vi edit

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You guys have to keep in mind that we are talking about the creme of the crop here...not your average person walking on the street.

Just because your average woman is 5'6" and has small hands doesn't mean that a 6'2" with "man hands" and a very athletic build doesn't exist.

Not common != non existant