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Will UK (and Canada) act unilaterally against the wishes of the UN?

FrancesBeansRevenge

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2798285.stm

Cannabis law sends 'wrong signal'


Cannabis is to be downgraded this summer
The decision to relax UK laws on cannabis is sending out the "wrong signal" to the rest of the world, according to a UN panel responsible for drugs issues.
Home Secretary David Blunkett's decision to downgrade cannabis from a Class B to a Class C drug may also damage British people's health.

According to the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), relaxing the rules on cannabis may prompt an increase in its use.

The INCB's Nigerian president, Philip Emafo, said: "It is important that consensus prevails in international drug control.

"No government should take unilateral measures without considering the impact of its actions and ultimately the consequences for an entire system that took governments almost a century to establish."

It's quite worrying that we might end up in the next 10 or 20 years ... with our psychiatric hospitals filled with people who have problems with cannabis

Professor Ghodse
He added that young people were confused over "mixed messages" about drugs.

"On one hand you are telling them not to go to clubs and use ecstasy because it is dangerous, but on the other hand you are not doing anything about cannabis," he argued.

In a 90-page report published on Wednesday, the INCB also suggested that the policy on cannabis could lead to increased cultivation of the drug destined for the UK and "other European countries".

Last September a conference in Nairobi heard the UK's decision would "undermine the efforts of governments of African countries to counter illicit cannabis cultivation, trafficking and abuse".

Cancer

Mr Blunkett's initiative had led to "worldwide repercussions ... including confusion and widespread misunderstanding."

Critics of the government's stance say cannabis can cause cancers, heart disease and mental health problems.

Professor Ghodse, a former INCB president and in charge of studies into addictive behaviour at the University of London's St George's Hospital, said: "It's quite worrying that we might end up in the next 10 or 20 years ... with our psychiatric hospitals filled with people who have problems with cannabis.

"Recreational use of cannabis is something that any government and any community should think very seriously about."

A recent study by the British Lung Foundation suggested that smoking three joints had the same impact as 20 cigarettes.

But the chief executive of drugs charity DrugScope, Roger Howard, argued that control of cannabis caused "disproportionately more harm to society than the harm caused by the substance itself".

He added: "The credibility of the INCB is thrown into doubt when its criticism of the UK Government's sensible proposal to re-classify cannabis is based on dubious science and misleading conclusions."

Professor Ghodse refused to be drawn on the specific issue of cautioning people found to be in possession of cannabis.

Illegal

"The board does not dictate to the countries how to deal with penalties," he said.

"Penalties are a national issue providing they are not in violation of the conventions."

Although he welcomed Mr Blunkett's statement last July that all controlled drugs are to stay illegal.

The government will make the final moves towards downgrading the classification of cannabis later this year.

When that happens people found possessing small quantities of the drug will only be arrested in "exceptional" circumstances such as blowing smoke in a policeman's face or causing a disturbance.

Well I certainly hope the UK, and Canada, give the UN the middle finger on this issue. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: NewSc2
I don't see anything about Canada mentioned in the article.. it's all UK

Yeh.. sorry my bad. I added Canada in the mix because of it's current push for decriminalisation
and because there are so many of our Canadian friends here... many who seem to hold a very high opinion of the UN. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: NewSc2
I don't see anything about Canada mentioned in the article.. it's all UK

Yeh.. sorry my bad. I added Canada in the mix because of it's current push for decriminalisation. 🙂

Where you looking for this?

LISA SCHLEIN
CBC

GENEVA (CP) - An official with the UN drug watchdog questions whether Canada is too hasty in allowing the medical use of marijuana but praised Ottawa for having legislation in place to control a variety of other narcotics.

"We have to be much more positive about Canada this year because it has finally put all the psychotropic substances under its national law," says Herbert Schaepe, secretary of the International Narcotics Control Board.

Canada now "fully complies" with the Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971, which obliges governments to introduce control measures such as licensing of companies, import-export authorizations, prescription requirements and inspections.

The board had said last year that Canada was the only developed country that failed to live up to the treaty, and this "could adversely affect efforts to control quite a number of substances." Psychotropic drugs such as benzodiazepines - familiarly known as "bennies" - phenobarbital and amphetamines were allowed to make their way through Canada to illicit markets in the United States as a result, it said.

"So, I think with these changes and with the co-operation between the police authorities of Canada and the United States, this is something which is probably now solved," Schaepe said.

The board is part of the UN International Drug Control Program based in Vienna, Austria. It released its latest annual report on the global drug control situation on Wednesday. A key point is that far from making poor countries rich, illicit drug production keeps most people in developing countries trapped in poverty.

As for North America, the report says cannabis remains the most common drug of abuse and is widely available in Canada, Mexico and the United States.

Schaepe said a significant amount of cannabis seized in the United States "is coming from Canada where probably the attitude of the authorities is more liberal than on the other side of the border."

The board is concerned that the Canadian government may be jumping the gun on "the medical use of cannabis," he said, and may be making some exceptions in this regard "before research into the supposed medical benefits of cannabis has been completed."

"What we do not understand is why the legislators cannot wait until this medical research comes up with definite results."

Two years ago, a Canadian court sided with an epileptic who said he needed marijuana to control his seizures. In response, Ottawa adopted regulations that allow the use of marijuana for medical reasons under certain circumstances.

But the regulations have been criticized for being cumbersome and unfair, and there have been further court rulings and appeals that left an air of uncertainty over Canadian laws on marijuana.

Schaepe also expressed misgivings about Vancouver's proposed safe-injection sites for drug users.

"We think it is not in line with international conventions when the government or local governments just condones the abuse of substances which are coming from the illicit market and opens up places where this can be done," he said.

Vancouver officials explained that the city wants to incorporate harm-reduction measures, such as better health treatment for addicts, in its drug strategy which includes prevention, treatment and enforcement.

The UN report notes that after the terrorist attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, the amount of drugs seized at airports and border crossings in both Canada and the United States "decreased considerably."

The board says "enhanced border controls" resulted in "reduced availability of cocaine and heroin on illicit markets" - which has generally led to increased prices.

cbc.ca
 
Certainly NO ONE wants the UN to be dictating domestic policies such as drug control (or lack thereof).

They should stick to what they are best at: passing resolutions they never actually enforce. 😀
 
Originally posted by: hagbard
Just when you think the UN might be good for something....

Will you just go ahead and admit the only goddamn thing you care about is smoking pot? Damn I just broke my promise to not reply to you.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: hagbard
Just when you think the UN might be good for something....

Will you just go ahead and admit the only goddamn thing you care about is smoking pot? Damn I just broke my promise to not reply to you.

Will you just go ahead and admit your unnatural attraction to hagbard? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Certainly NO ONE wants the UN to be dictating domestic policies such as drug control (or lack thereof).

They should stick to what they are best at: passing resolutions they never actually enforce. 😀

Its not really the UN that pushed this in the first place.

 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
There'd be a hell of an immigration jump if pot became legal here.

Bring it. 😀

- M4H

It would increase tourism. Trouble is, you could get an increase in distributors of nastier drugs (heroin, cocaine), though that can be moderated by gov't supply to addicits (which has been suggested by the Mayor of Vancouver).
 
Originally posted by: justint
I think Millenium and Hagbard need to admit the seething passion that they are both restraining for each other.

If you admit you hate jews I will.
 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: hagbard
Just when you think the UN might be good for something....

Will you just go ahead and admit the only goddamn thing you care about is smoking pot? Damn I just broke my promise to not reply to you.

Will you just go ahead and admit your unnatural attraction to hagbard? 🙂

I am only attracted to you! 😉
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: hagbard
Just when you think the UN might be good for something....

Will you just go ahead and admit the only goddamn thing you care about is smoking pot? Damn I just broke my promise to not reply to you.

Will you just go ahead and admit your unnatural attraction to hagbard? 🙂

I am only attracted to you! 😉

It must be my overpowering, musky, sweaty, manly stench that I have acquired since my last shower in 2002.
 
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Certainly NO ONE wants the UN to be dictating domestic policies such as drug control (or lack thereof).

They should stick to what they are best at: passing resolutions they never actually enforce. 😀

Its not really the UN that pushed this in the first place.

According to whom?
 
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