Will this go on my friends record?

[mnewsham]

I'm not a lawyer but they won't get into any trouble atall if they have 'probable cause' to detain someone - thats what I got from cop dramas.

With probable cause they can search your vehicle, I am saying that if they don't have probable cause and they detain your vehicle and find nothing they could get in trouble.

 

[badb0y]

Probably Cause? That's the biggest bullshit ever lol. Anything could be probably cause.

 

[Greenman]

Your friend being issued a citation will never appear on your criminal record.

 

[Smoblikat]

If you were arrested and processed it will be on your criminal record forever nationwide.

I was neither.

 

[mnewsham]

Probably Cause? That's the biggest bullshit ever lol. Anything could be probably cause.

if it goes to court and they can't prove real probably cause then it will get thrown out, however a cop saying they smelt something funny is enough to give probable cause these days.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to detain you for no reason while they bring in a dog to try and obtain probable cause? Or am I crazy and/or is our legal system actually that fucked up?

He was over the speed limit. That can take time to write up

 

[Imp]

AFAIK cops can detain you for up to 24-hours without any reason whatsoever, probably while you whine alot about your rights. Next Question.

They can, but if they don't find anything they will get in a heap of trouble.

Never had a run in with the law (pulled over and got off for speeding count?), so limited knowledge...

But my impression is that cops can generally have their way with you. If you aren't paralyzed or dead, then you can get a lawyer and sue the shit out of them or get any charge overturned.

 

[mnewsham]

Never had a run in with the law (pulled over and got off for speeding count?), so limited knowledge...

But my impression is that cops can generally have their way with you. If you aren't paralyzed or dead, then you can get a lawyer and sue the shit out of them or get any charge overturned.

They can't search your car, I make a point of telling them I do not consent and have never been in a car that was searched. With probable cause they can search anyway, but if they can detain the vehicle for 24 hours but if they don't find anything they will probably get shit from their boss, which is why it is only done when they really really think you have something you are hiding.

 

[Dirigible]

Here's a legal analysis of 99 Problems. You should find it interesting...

http://slu.edu/Documents/law/Law Journal/Archives/LJ56-2_Mason_Article.pdf

I love that article.

 

[phucheneh]

Here's a legal analysis of 99 Problems. You should find it interesting...

http://slu.edu/Documents/law/Law Journal/Archives/LJ56-2_Mason_Article.pdf

Okay, so in case anyone missed it:

This link is fucking awesome.

And to those opposed to my sentiments- I'm not quite as naive as you seem to think. I'm well aware that cops will come up with bullshit reasons. I know the legal system has a perverse twist on stuff like this.

I'm still going to stand up for myself in most all situations. I wouldn't have drugs in my car, and if I did, I'd be obeying traffic laws, have current tags, no burnt out bulbs, ect.

So I'm thinking more the standpoint of someone who's just purely being harassed by a cop (been there). The OP, OTOH...I have a feeling there was some probable cause there, however weak. I'm sure if he smelled like weed, he's not gonna admit it. But even if he hadn't smoked, it's hard to hide the smell of some Sweet Purple Nurple, or whatever he called his stash. Good hydroponically grown weed will produce a smell that will leak from ziplock bags, jars, ect. You need multiple layers of sealed container to even begin to conceal that smell.

 

[Theb]

If your friend is getting a private sector job, like at a datacenter, he'll be fine. If he ever wanted to work in law enforcement or any job requiring clearance he would want to be upfront with the interviewer about it because it would probably be found.

The other thing I would be a tiny bit concerned about is federal student loans. From what I remember while applying they were intense about anything drug related.

Smart move. If you don't want any BS on your "friends" record then don't risk doing something illegal. Imagine what will happen the next you (I really meant your "friend") gets pulled over with more than a G. Say goodby to that position.

Your "friends" parents must be very proud of you, I really meant him.

I obeyed the law once. It was terrible.

 

[brianmanahan]

by "his friend"...

he means himself.

 

[mnewsham]

Okay, so in case anyone missed it:

This link is fucking awesome.

And to those opposed to my sentiments- I'm not quite as naive as you seem to think. I'm well aware that cops will come up with bullshit reasons. I know the legal system has a perverse twist on stuff like this.

I'm still going to stand up for myself in most all situations. I wouldn't have drugs in my car, and if I did, I'd be obeying traffic laws, have current tags, no burnt out bulbs, ect.

So I'm thinking more the standpoint of someone who's just purely being harassed by a cop (been there). The OP, OTOH...I have a feeling there was some probable cause there, however weak. I'm sure if he smelled like weed, he's not gonna admit it. But even if he hadn't smoked, it's hard to hide the smell of some Sweet Purple Nurple, or whatever he called his stash. Good hydroponically grown weed will produce a smell that will leak from ziplock bags, jars, ect. You need multiple layers of sealed container to even begin to conceal that smell.

ziplock freezer bag and then put that and a dryer sheet inside of a mason jar

 

[JM Aggie08]

Why would you(r friend) put (him|your)self in a situation that could end up on your record?

 

[Theb]

by "his friend"...

he means himself.

kthx.

 

[dud]

another one of you self righteous message board ass hats. i mean the guy made a mistake , i'm sure you feel great sitting in your basement jerking off to how good a ned flanders wannabe you are.

i don't really fault the OP or his friend or whatever from being searched. i've been illegally searched a couple times. and in the end it was either get illegally searched (for the nothing we had on us) or deal with more bullshit and be detained longer.

once i was coming back from a bar (i was definitely drunk) with my cousin and he was driving. my cousin is somewhat of a dumbass and drives a lowered civic with clear taillights , or at least did at the time. that said he was sober and we were going the speed limit and tried to see if we were drunk. anyway they made us get out of the car and had him open the trunk, patted us down etc. now he didnt have to open the trunk but the racist ass cops in the town i grew up in would just have ticketed him for something stupid like his taillights being the wrong color etc so he just consented to it, having seen them do that in the past.

Dude, first take a chill pill and calm down. The guy did something illegal and there is nothing "self-righteous" about my response ... and I WISH I had a basement. You, on the other hand need to have your ass kicked. You are a "lifer" and sit behind your monitor posting uselessly a LOT more than I do. You sound like the type that blames everyone else for your own problems. You make horribly bad decisions and blame others for them.

Get up and walk away from your computer. If you and I met in-person you would NEVER say what you did above. You are a sissy girl who calls people names from afar.

You should be ashamed of yourself. I know I am ...

 

[Smoblikat]

by "his friend"...

he means himself.

No...................

Looks like YOU need to get pulled over

 

[FreshCrabLegs]

So my friend
...
I am wondering if the infraction will go on my criminal record.

lol, wut?

 

[Destiny]

So my friend was driving a wee bit too fast and got pulled over, the cop searched his car and found a couple G of marijuana. Since it was under an ounce and he was in MA he was issued a civil infraction and had to pay a 100$ fine to the county he was acught in. So he paid the fine, and called the town clerk of the town to confirm that they had recieved the check. She said that they have the check and will process it within a week. It has been a couple of weeks and my friend doesnt see the money taken out of his account still. I am wondering if the infraction will go on my criminal record.

It MAY not show up in employee background checks because they are searching only for felonies... but it will show up when the government runs a background check, police runs your record, or Canadian and Mexican border officers run your record. My friend had a DUI that got dropped to an infraction and he got denied entry to Canada because it showed up in their background check...

Since you started this thread and if you are using the same e-mail (if e-mail is made public on your ATOT settings), your employer or future employers running background checks may find it (google is their friend).

 

[reallyscrued]

I REALLY enjoyed how you shot yourself in the foot in the very first post.

 

[dud]

I REALLY enjoyed how you shot yourself in the foot in the very first post.

No, it wasn't the OP ... it was his "friend".

 

[reallyscrued]

No, it wasn't the OP ... it was his "friend".

Sounds like his "friend" has some issues. I wouldn't be friends with him. If I was friends with OPs friend, I'd be like, "Friend, you need to find yourself another friend, 'cuz we can't be friends no more".

Then I'd find some new friends.

 

[dud]

Sounds like his "friend" has some issues. I wouldn't be friends with him. If I was friends with OPs friend, I'd be like, "Friend, you need to find yourself another friend, 'cuz we can't be friends no more".

Then I'd find some new friends.

Agreed ...

 

[ichy]

AFAIK cops can detain you for up to 24-hours without any reason whatsoever

If they want to get sued to oblivion then they can do that.

 

[ichy]

You have obviously never had any sort of run-in with police.

The BS that the e-attorneys on the internet will spout does not work in the real world.

Fortunately for me this sort of thing has always been just a hypothetical, but according to a couple of criminal defense attorneys I've spoken with standing up for your rights does work. Judges aren't all in bed with the cops (at least in Maryland. In the Deep South I'd be more wary.)

Another reason to never consent to anything is that even if a cop makes up BS probable cause you can challenge it in court. If you have an otherwise clean record and your attorney starts filing motions to suppress what are the chances that an overworked DA will fight a petty pot possession charge? If you waive your rights then you have zero grounds to challenge anything.