Will this 400W PSU work with GeForce 9800 GTX+?

[toyota]

Originally posted by: webvigator2k

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: webvigator2k
For the record, I'm only an occasional gamer. GTA IV and Ghostbusters were the only two games that caught my attention lately. Other than that, I haven't played games in quite some time. This is why I never went all out with my machine, because it's mostly used for websurfing, development and the occasional hot game. I used to upgrade my computer every 18 months when I lived at home, but since I've been on my own for nearly 5 years, I've only upgraded once. That few hundred dollars can be better suited paying for gas, food or on my girlfriend 🙂 I'm anticipating some good deals coming out in about a month with the holiday season approaching and everyone being desperate for sales.

Thanks for your help everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this card and see what happens. Worse comes to worse I can always return it.

thats just a ridiculous waste of money from someone that just claimed gas and food were more important. you will NOT be able to play hardly any modern games on that 2.0 single core Sempron and 1gb of memory no matter what video card you go with. you dont even come remotely close to meeting the minimum requirements to play Ghostbusters and GTA 4 which are games you just mentioned. either buy a console or buy/build a modern pc if you want to try and play those games or any other modern games for that matter.

First of all, GTA IV doesn't run well on my machine because my video card only has 128mb of ram on it. The memory meter in the game shows about 126mb of it being used on the default minimum settings. Obviously, with 512mb of memory and a video card with a core clock speed that is probably 4x higher than what I have, it'll run a bit better. Will it run at Xbox 360 levels? Probably not. Do I really care? No. As long as it looks decent and I can play it for the time being, that's all that matters.

Second of all, how do you know what mine or anyone else's financial situation is? If you knew anything about money, you would know that cars and computers are two money pits that depreciate to high hell soon after you buy them. I can go out there and buy a high gaming rig right now if I wanted to, but why spend all that money when I can lowball it and get the results that I need? I understand your thinking, why waste the money on it now if you can wait a month or so and get a more powerful one at the same price when you're ready to buy a new mobo/cpu/RAM combo? The answer to that is simple: I haven't come across any hot deals yet on these combos and haven't jumped on any yet. Maybe there will be one next week. Or the week after. Or next month. By then, this card will probably be back at full price and I would have gotten screwed out of the $30 rebate. I've always built my computers on the cheap and have gotten about 3 1/2 years lifespan between upgrades until I absolutely need to upgrade again. That's more money in my pocket to spend on better things than depreciating assets.

sorry but you dont seem to know whats going as for as modern gaming is concerned. the 128mb on your 7600gs is only part of the problem and really is the least of your issues. your 2.0 Sempron will NOT run that game no matter what video card you go with as its MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS state a decent dual core cpu and 1.5gb ram is needed just to play. your cpu is going to have you in the very low teens and single digits for games like GTA 4 and Ghostbusters and plenty of other modern titles because they require a decent dual core cpu and more ram just to be remotely playable. even most newer games that dont require a dual core cpu will still require a stronger single core cpu than yours and more ram to even be very playable. this isnt 2004 anymore so you absolutely need a whole new system first instead of just worrying about a video card. the pc you have now is not worthy of putting in any decent modern card like a 9800gtx.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: webvigator2k

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: webvigator2k
For the record, I'm only an occasional gamer. GTA IV and Ghostbusters were the only two games that caught my attention lately. Other than that, I haven't played games in quite some time. This is why I never went all out with my machine, because it's mostly used for websurfing, development and the occasional hot game. I used to upgrade my computer every 18 months when I lived at home, but since I've been on my own for nearly 5 years, I've only upgraded once. That few hundred dollars can be better suited paying for gas, food or on my girlfriend 🙂 I'm anticipating some good deals coming out in about a month with the holiday season approaching and everyone being desperate for sales.

Thanks for your help everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this card and see what happens. Worse comes to worse I can always return it.

thats just a ridiculous waste of money from someone that just claimed gas and food were more important. you will NOT be able to play hardly any modern games on that 2.0 single core Sempron and 1gb of memory no matter what video card you go with. you dont even come remotely close to meeting the minimum requirements to play Ghostbusters and GTA 4 which are games you just mentioned. either buy a console or buy/build a modern pc if you want to try and play those games or any other modern games for that matter.

First of all, GTA IV doesn't run well on my machine because my video card only has 128mb of ram on it. The memory meter in the game shows about 126mb of it being used on the default minimum settings. Obviously, with 512mb of memory and a video card with a core clock speed that is probably 4x higher than what I have, it'll run a bit better. Will it run at Xbox 360 levels? Probably not. Do I really care? No. As long as it looks decent and I can play it for the time being, that's all that matters.

I hear you about purchasing in the value "sweet spot". Die shrinks, architechtural changes, software improvements (Direct X, etc) make increasingly powerful computers available at regular intervals.

The point Toyota is trying to make is that your system is CPU bound for GTA IV.

If you wanted to play Older games like BF2142 or medieval total war II on that system a video card upgrade would let you play at higher IQ settings and/or higher resolution. People with existing systems that upgrade monitors usually like a video card swap for this reason.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: toyota
can you not read because i clearly address the part about him upgrading? stop taking only parts of my comments and trying to start shit with me. with a really low end single core cpu and 1gb of system ram it would be silly to stick a decent card in there even for even a few months. he knows he needs a new pc so thats where his attention and money should really be focused. buying a card that his system cant come close to even using while he waits several months for prices to hopefully drop on cpus doesnt make sense.

You have to be joking. This is what you said:

you have to be joking putting a 9800gtx+ in that system. I am sure plenty of idiots will say how you will get a big jump over your 7600gs but overall you really are just wasting your time. a single core 2.0 Sempron and 1 gig of ram is not even going to allow you to play many modern games smoothly at all. heck that doenst even meet the minimum requirements just play in many cases. just build or buy you a new pc instead of wasting any time or money with that system if modern games are your concern

dip to what? at what price are you going to pull the trigger? no point in going little by little with that system since it is way too slow to even justify using a decent card for a few months. that card will just be wasted and by the time you get a new pc better cards for the same money will be out.

How does this berating equate to addressing his problem? He already knows his problem and he is currently addressing it. He will be upgrading it a piece at a time. And this is where I came in: Prices on various components aren't going to drop dramatically by the time he finishes his upgrading. What you want him to do is upgrade all at once, or some other bullshit. There is absolutely nothing wrong with him buying the video card first, especially since the card is fairly cheap.

Your rant about his system not playing modern games is virtually POINTLESS. You take what other people do way to fucking seriously, and by doing so in the end you don't help the user at all.

 

[webvigator2k]

Ok, I think I got my system here together now. Let's just do a quick check to make sure I have enough juice...


-AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz that I plan on unlocking to a quad core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103694
-GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...BYTE%20GA-MA785GM-US2H
-Possibly either this 9800 GTX+ video card (using a molex to substitute the missing second PCI-E plug) or a regular PNY GeForce 9800 GT EE card, that doesn't require any high amounts of juice
-RAM I still need to research, I'll probably jump on whatever good 2-4gig DDR2 deal I can find