Originally posted by: captains
throwing a bunch of trailer parks and poor people in the path tend to slow them down
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: captains
throwing a bunch of trailer parks and poor people in the path tend to slow them down
build an artificial island way out in the north atlantic, cover it in trailer parks. It will attract hurricanes up from the gulf, the colder water will dissipate their energy.
Originally posted by: Ipno
Load an airplane full of politicians and fly it right into the worst part of the hurricane.
It might not stop the hurricane, but it will ultimately make everyone else feel better.
Originally posted by: FoBoT
hurricanes are a feature, not a bug.
get used to it
or move to missouri like i did
Originally posted by: Drakkon
Originally posted by: FoBoT
hurricanes are a feature, not a bug.
get used to it
or move to missouri like i did
so now instead of hurricanes you get tornados?
move to AZ...no crazy weather...unless you consider hot as hell "crazy"![]()
Originally posted by: marvdmartian
Stop hurricanes? You might as well try to stop the rotation of the earth. While it might be possible, it's not likely to happen any time in the near future!
A better idea would be to FORCE the people who lose houses & other buildings to hurricanes & tornadoes to rebuild with reinforced concrete. Of course, being American, it's their right to build with matchbook covers if they want to, right? However, if the insurance companies will only offer affordable insurance to people with reinforced concrete buildings & storm shutters, and the banks will only finance to insured people, then they really have not much choice at all, do they?
The government & insurance companies did this exact thing on Guam, not quite 30 years ago, when super typhoon Pamela hit there, and pretty much wiped out the island (in 1976). A lot of people that survived that one remembered super typhoon Karen in 1962, and said, "To heck with this!!", and changed the building codes. Nowadays, if you want to build with wood, you're on your own. You will not get insurance, and you will not get a bank loan to build.
Sound harsh? Then consider that when super typhoon Paka hit Guam in December of 97, and the north end of the island was being thrashed with 180+mph sustained winds, with gusts of over 200mph, that not one person was killed, and the damage to property for people with reinforced concrete structures (probably 98% of the island now) was minimal (there were a few houses on the navy base that had roofs start to peel back.....these were 40+ year old concrete houses that should have been demolished 10 years before, and rebuilt; there were also some really cheap concrete houses, built way below the recommended wall & roof thickness, with substandard materials, that sustained some minor damage). Frankly, going out after the storm, I was amazed. The Bank of Guam building had replaced all their regular glass pane windows a few years before with laminated glass windows (like your car's windshield, but beefier/thicker), and their tower, which goes up something like 8 stories high, sustained ZERO damage, even to the windows!! :shocked:
So yes, there is a way to build, that will shield people from hurricane force winds. Add to that the fact that levees and sea walls can be built to hold the sea back, and we can make the entire gulf coast and eastern seaboard that sees hurricanes just as safe as it's possible to be, and a heckuva lot safer than they are now. Will it cost? Sure, but if you do it like I said, and replace damaged buildings, then in 40 years you'll be like Guam is now, and you won't hear about damage like you saw after Katrina.![]()
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: marvdmartian
Stop hurricanes? You might as well try to stop the rotation of the earth. While it might be possible, it's not likely to happen any time in the near future!
A better idea would be to FORCE the people who lose houses & other buildings to hurricanes & tornadoes to rebuild with reinforced concrete. Of course, being American, it's their right to build with matchbook covers if they want to, right? However, if the insurance companies will only offer affordable insurance to people with reinforced concrete buildings & storm shutters, and the banks will only finance to insured people, then they really have not much choice at all, do they?
The government & insurance companies did this exact thing on Guam, not quite 30 years ago, when super typhoon Pamela hit there, and pretty much wiped out the island (in 1976). A lot of people that survived that one remembered super typhoon Karen in 1962, and said, "To heck with this!!", and changed the building codes. Nowadays, if you want to build with wood, you're on your own. You will not get insurance, and you will not get a bank loan to build.
Sound harsh? Then consider that when super typhoon Paka hit Guam in December of 97, and the north end of the island was being thrashed with 180+mph sustained winds, with gusts of over 200mph, that not one person was killed, and the damage to property for people with reinforced concrete structures (probably 98% of the island now) was minimal (there were a few houses on the navy base that had roofs start to peel back.....these were 40+ year old concrete houses that should have been demolished 10 years before, and rebuilt; there were also some really cheap concrete houses, built way below the recommended wall & roof thickness, with substandard materials, that sustained some minor damage). Frankly, going out after the storm, I was amazed. The Bank of Guam building had replaced all their regular glass pane windows a few years before with laminated glass windows (like your car's windshield, but beefier/thicker), and their tower, which goes up something like 8 stories high, sustained ZERO damage, even to the windows!! :shocked:
So yes, there is a way to build, that will shield people from hurricane force winds. Add to that the fact that levees and sea walls can be built to hold the sea back, and we can make the entire gulf coast and eastern seaboard that sees hurricanes just as safe as it's possible to be, and a heckuva lot safer than they are now. Will it cost? Sure, but if you do it like I said, and replace damaged buildings, then in 40 years you'll be like Guam is now, and you won't hear about damage like you saw after Katrina.![]()
But, but, but, I want my house to have a nice view of the coast. I don't want a wall. I want my house built on stilts right at the water's edge. I want one of those straw roofs that look really nice and tropical. I want, I want, I want. And, I want the insurance company to replace it every 5 years when it succumbs to a storm.
Originally posted by: RBachman
There are building designs which can better withstand the winds, and possibly room for improvement in drainage & *** systems... but thoroughly preventing them is a long way off, if ever.
