Will there be riots on the 2nd?

[Lithium381]

If we don't get a resolution to the whole DC fiasco can i expect riots? Especially in extreme liberal cities such as San Francisco? How pissed are people going to be that they might not get their free monies?

 

[theeedude]

If we don't get a resolution to the whole DC fiasco can i expect riots? Especially in extreme liberal cities such as San Francisco? How pissed are people going to be that they might not get their free monies?

Not as pissed as tea-baggers realizing how much government dole they really get. They will be absolutely bewildered. Government hands off my Medicare crowd, I am looking at you

 

[jackstar7]

No.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Not as pissed as tea-baggers realizing how much government dole they really get. They will be absolutely bewildered. Government hands off my Medicare crowd, I am looking at you

So you are admitting that there are a ton of people on the government dole? Good.. we can cut then.. yes? If not, where do we make up the 1.5 trillion.

 

[theeedude]

So you are admitting that there are a ton of people on the government dole? Good.. we can cut then.. yes? If not, where do we make up the 1.5 trillion.

Go ahead and cut it. All you gotta do is not raise the debt ceiling. But even the batsh!t insane Republicans are too scared to do it.

 

[Craig234]

If we don't get a resolution to the whole DC fiasco can i expect riots? Especially in extreme liberal cities such as San Francisco? How pissed are people going to be that they might not get their free monies?

LOL, where are there going to be riots, in prosperous San Francisco, or the home of government money recipients in Red gun States?

 

[Fear No Evil]

LOL, where are there going to be riots, in prosperous San Francisco, or the home of government money recipients in Red gun States?

San Fran is prosperous? Why are they not paying their fair share? Bunch of Tea Bagging Republicans! We should probably take their money to cover this debt thing.

 

[superccs]

Storming the US congress with pitch forks and torches might be the more popular plan.

 

[a777pilot]

We can't afford riots.

 

[Craig234]

San Fran is prosperous? Why are they not paying their fair share? Bunch of Tea Bagging Republicans! We should probably take their money to cover this debt thing.

Well doofus, they elect politicians who want to pass laws for them to 'pay their fair share'.

You don't, so you're a hypocrite to criticize them for it.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Well doofus, they elect politicians who want to pass laws for them to 'pay their fair share'.

You don't, so you're a hypocrite to criticize them for it.

You don't need laws to pay more in taxes. Just send in more.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

So you are admitting that there are a ton of people on the government dole? Good.. we can cut then.. yes? If not, where do we make up the 1.5 trillion.

Yep we should cut those on the dole, anyone drawing a government salary including those in Washington, active military, defense contractors, etc... However those recieving bennies from SS and Medicare are NOT on the dole, they are recieving EARNED benifits from seperately funded programs that actually have nothing to do with deficit spending.

The republicans would love for you to believe that paying SS and medicare benifits is deficit spending but thats just misdirection. Is there problems with the long term solvency of these programs? Abosolutely, but linking these problems to our deficit spending problem is republican subtrafuge in an attempt to attack these social programs that they hate and the majority of Americans love. Claiming these programs are a part of our spending problem is just plain wrong.

 

[Craig234]

You don't need laws to pay more in taxes. Just send in more.

No, doofus, a 'fair share' is raising the rates for everyone, including themselves; paying twice what others do is not a 'fair share'.

 

[Craig234]

Yep we should cut those on the dole, anyone drawing a government salary including those in Washington, active military, defense contractors, etc... However those recieving bennies from SS and Medicare are NOT on the dole, they are recieving EARNED benifits from seperately funded programs that actually have nothing to do with deficit spending.

The republicans would love for you to believe that paying SS and medicare benifits is deficit spending but thats just misdirection. Is there problems with the long term solvency of these programs? Abosolutely, but linking these problems to our deficit spending problem is republican subtrafuge in an attempt to attack these social programs that they hate and the majority of Americans love. Claiming these programs are a part of our spending problem is just plain wrong.

That really is the Republican approach - slash the salaries of workers while increasing the incomes of the richest few, and then attack the workers for needing a safety net.

I'm all for prosperity, when it's not excessively concentrated causing less for others; but when adjusted for inflation, under JFK 15,000 Americans had incomes over a million dollars.

Today, the figure is over 360,000 - at a time when workers have had a smaller and smaller share of the wealth. Meanwhile, those rich paid 43% income taxes then, 23% today.

 

[Lithium381]

No, doofus, a 'fair share' is raising the rates for everyone, including themselves; paying twice what others do is not a 'fair share'.

WTF!! This is exactly what BOBO the turtle is proposing... "raise taxes on the richest americans so that ordinary citizens don't have such a burden".....

 

[trenchfoot]

Yep we should cut those on the dole, anyone drawing a government salary including those in Washington, active military, defense contractors, etc... However those recieving bennies from SS and Medicare are NOT on the dole, they are recieving EARNED benifits from seperately funded programs that actually have nothing to do with deficit spending.

The republicans would love for you to believe that paying SS and medicare benifits is deficit spending but thats just misdirection. Is there problems with the long term solvency of these programs? Abosolutely, but linking these problems to our deficit spending problem is republican subtrafuge in an attempt to attack these social programs that they hate and the majority of Americans love. Claiming these programs are a part of our spending problem is just plain wrong.

The gist of that problem is this: Every dollar that gets delivered to recipients of entitlement programs is a dollar that big business feels they should've gotten, one way or another. Ergo, their maniacal obsession for privatizing all of those gov't programs and their incessant push for deregulating big business to make it so much easier for them to poison the environment and our food in the name of higher profits.

Bush and Cheney spoiled them rotten and made chronic corporate welfare junkies out of them and they want their fix back....badly. They're past the point of being maliciously discreet about their intentions any more. They're blatant, obnoxious and absolutely arrogant about it now and they really don't care what the rest of the nation thinks of them because of their overwhelming desire to have things the way they were.

We've all seen how the very rich, through their legislative lap dogs, will go hog wild and blatantly over-reach and over-react to any opportunity that comes their way. The 2010 elections and the reaction from its results by the far right and the very rich who control them is stark incontrovertible evidence of what I'm opining about.

edit - Having a strong goverment is the only thing that's protecting the middle class and the poor from being preyed upon by the very rich. And the very rich want to dismantle and neuter it to get at them any way they choose.

 

[Jaskalas]

If we don't get a resolution to the whole DC fiasco can i expect riots? Especially in extreme liberal cities such as San Francisco? How pissed are people going to be that they might not get their free monies?

They'd have to not get that money first. That doesn't just happen immediately.

 

[wuliheron]

LOL, where are there going to be riots, in prosperous San Francisco, or the home of government money recipients in Red gun States?

They've been beating themselves up for years. Maybe a riot is just what they need to finally pound some sense into them.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

I leave the country for a 2 week vacation on the 2nd, hope I can get out in time! Maybe I can't get back in again since the FAA/customs gets shut down? This could be fun..

 

[Fear No Evil]

No, doofus, a 'fair share' is raising the rates for everyone, including themselves; paying twice what others do is not a 'fair share'.

Wait.. what?! Are you turning Republican on us?

 

[Craig234]

Wait.. what?! Are you turning Republican on us?

Sure, if Republicans changed their policies to good ones. Did I miss a memo?

 

[Craig234]

I leave the country for a 2 week vacation on the 2nd, hope I can get out in time! Maybe I can't get back in again since the FAA/customs gets shut down? This could be fun..

No problem, it's just Libertarian Air Traffic control. Every pilot has complete freedom to land where he likes, and the self-interest against crashing will prevent any accidents.

 

[Craig234]

WTF!! This is exactly what BOBO the turtle is proposing... "raise taxes on the richest americans so that ordinary citizens don't have such a burden".....

Which is a great policy, up to the point of fairness. What we have now are the rich 'raping', to use a popular word here, the rest of the country of their wealth.

 

[woolfe9999]

If we don't get a resolution to the whole DC fiasco can i expect riots? Especially in extreme liberal cities such as San Francisco? How pissed are people going to be that they might not get their free monies?

I thought the government would not fail to pay anyone their benefits because of this? That's what we're being told, that this whole debt ceiling issue is meaningless because the government can operate for a long time without it and no one will go without. If so, why even speculate about rioting?

 

[MotF Bane]

No problem, it's just Libertarian Air Traffic control. Every pilot has complete freedom to land where he likes, and the self-interest against crashing will prevent any accidents.

Anarchy is not libertarianism, idiot.

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