Will runnign a P4 @ 60C idle 68C load harm the cpu?

[neptunefix]

Basically, what the topic says. I notice the specs say the P4 chips are fine up to about 70C, which is when throttling occurs. Tests on various sites confirm that the processors are perfectly stable at 68C, but is there any proof that this shortens the life of the processor?

 

[AristoV300]

P4C (northwood) or E (Prescott)? For a Northwood that is way too high:shocked:

 

[neptunefix]

Northwood.

What do you base your opinion/information on? Spec says it can run that hot.

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't think he said it would harm it. It may or may not be throttling depending on the accuracy of the readings. Someone posted a link a while back to a utility that would tell you if throttling was occuring.

There is no disputing that the temps are way too high for a Northwood based on the temps reported by other users. Unless you have it overclocked to the limit or are using an unusual cooling solution.

I would say that even for a Prescott the idle temp is way too high.

 

[neptunefix]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
I don't think he said it would harm it. It may or may not be throttling depending on the accuracy of the readings. Someone posted a link a while back to a utility that would tell you if throttling was occuring.

There is no disputing that the temps are way too high for a Northwood based on the temps reported by other users. Unless you have it overclocked to the limit or are using an unusual cooling solution.

I would say that even for a Prescott the idle temp is way too high.

This is not a contest to see who has the lowest temps. My temps are 40-55C ish. My question I am raising is the issue of what is the TRUE operating range of the P4? I've had throttling turned off and my fan on a low RPM (For silence) and the thing went up to 67C under full load. I ran all sorts of benchmarks and everything looked fine.

So.. perhaps people could run hotter if they feel they can trade off noise? What is the point, if nothing is gained by running at 30C as opposed to 60C?

 

[LTC8K6]

The only thing gained is maybe cooler case temps / room temps, although technically a small amount of really hot air is the same as a large amount of not so hot air in terms of overall heat.

I can't fault your logic. If the chip is not throttling, and the case temps are okay, and the system is stable, I can't see any reason not to let the temps go up to get some quiet.