Will Romney swear oath of office on the Bible if he wins in November?

[Incorruptible]

Except Romney is a Mormon and Obama is not a Muslim.

Other than that, spot on analogy.

obama may not be Muslim but he sure loves to pander to them and go against Christians

 

[child of wonder]

obama may not be Muslim but he sure loves to pander to them and go against Christians

Maybe so, but the swearing in on the Qu'ran vs. Book of Mormon analogy still doesn't hold water.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

obama may not be Muslim but he sure loves to pander to them and go against Christians

It's like you're the jukebox, and we're all just waiting for the Fonz to come over, give your head a solid thump and say, "Heeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...."

 

[EagleKeeper]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say you must tithe 10% of your gross income or you cannot get permission to enter a temple to perform secret Freemason rituals that allow you access to your own planet that you will rule over as a god with your celestial wife when you die.

Mormons are not Christians. Christians believe the way to salvation is through Jesus, not through the pocketbook.

It is the way one practices the religion that is different; the overall belief is stil the same.

 

[child of wonder]

It is the way one practices the religion that is different; the overall belief is stil the same.

Believing god was once a man, like us, and practiced the teachings of Mormonism so he could become a god? That he lives on a planet called Kolob with many spirit wives?

The deviations of Mormonism from Christianity are too great to lump it in with Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Baptists.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I doubt many Christians would agree. There are some very huge differences between traditional Christianity and Mormonism.

No, there really isn't. Biblical canon isn't agreed on. In light of the fact that "traditional Christianity" can't tell what's supposedly divinely inspired and what's made up, the Mormon claims about their books don't stick out.
Likewise with their saints.

There is a good reason Christians drove them from town to town as the ran west from civilization, ultimately Joseph Smith was murdered in jail by Christians.

If you want to list all of the Christians killed by other Christians, we're gonna be here a while.

 

[Emos]

obama may not be Muslim but he sure loves to pander to them and go against Christians

Goddamn it's like a toy doll with a pull-string voice...

 

[Ktulu]

No, there really isn't. Biblical canon isn't agreed on. In light of the fact that "traditional Christianity" can't tell what's supposedly divinely inspired and what's made up, the Mormon claims about their books don't stick out.
Likewise with their saints.

If you want to list all of the Christians killed by other Christians, we're gonna be here a while.

Actually the canon of the new testament was pretty much set within the first few centuries of the christian church, and that is agreed upon by all christian churches. Absolutely no one agrees that the mormon book is inspired scripture except of course mormons. The only really disputable canon is that of the old testament where protestant exclude 7 books that the catholic canon includes and the orthodox includes a few more than the catholics.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Actually the canon of the new testament was pretty much set within the first few centuries of the christian church, and that is agreed upon by all christian churches.

And the Mormons don't remove any of those. So you have no case.

 

[Todd33]

No, there really isn't. Biblical canon isn't agreed on. In light of the fact that "traditional Christianity" can't tell what's supposedly divinely inspired and what's made up, the Mormon claims about their books don't stick out.
Likewise with their saints.

Yes it is, the Orthodox Christians won this fight 1800 years ago, go do some reading. The Christian sects that grew out of the common Orthodox trunk are just minor variations of the same idea. They only disagree on minor interpretations of of NT. Do any of them believe Jesus came to NA? Do any of them believe that Joseph Smith received the word of God and it is as binding as the Bible?

If you want to list all of the Christians killed by other Christians, we're gonna be here a while.

No doubt, but we are talking modern history in the US. If they are all just Christians and one big happy family, the Christian people of various states would not have drove them all the way to the hell hole that was Utah. Not to mention the pressure the US government was under to invade and disperse the cult of the Mormons. The plan to send the military to Salt Lake City was only broken up by the Civil War. Doesn't sound like the Christian people of the 1850s thought of them as Christians. But I guess they have had 150 years to clean up their act (polygamy, institutionalized racism, etc.), grow in numbers and use their immense wealth to buy good PR.

The only reason Mormonism isn't a non-starter for Romney is because they same idiots that support him now think Obama is a Muslim, so the lesser of two evils.

 

[Ktulu]

And the Mormons don't remove any of those. So you have no case.

They aren't removing but they're certainly adding and that is just as bad, since they don't have the authority to do so.

 

[zsdersw]

Maybe so, but the swearing in on the Qu'ran vs. Book of Mormon analogy still doesn't hold water.

It does, actually, only in the sense in which the analogy was intended: how the average American perceives the books. Both are regarded with either apprehension, fear, or sometimes hostility.

 

[soulcougher73]

They aren't removing but they're certainly adding and that is just as bad, since they don't have the authority to do so.

Who's authority are they supposed to get in order to do so? Gods? LOL

Made up book is made up.

 

[DominionSeraph]

They aren't removing but they're certainly adding and that is just as bad, since they don't have the authority to do so.

They have just as much authority as anyone else did.

No doubt, but we are talking modern history in the US. If they are all just Christians and one big happy family

When did I ever imply that Christians aren't murderously insane?

 

[Ktulu]

They have just as much authority as anyone else did.

I'm sorry but that is just false. Go back and read the new testament. Christ founded One church and gave that church the power to bind and loose. He also gave that church a promise that he would guide the church and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. You don't have to believe any of this, I'm just stating facts here. Now if Christs promises hold up, then you'd be able to trace back a church that goes back 2000 years that has been making authoritative decisions and has represented Christianity for that entire time. I'll give you a hint its not the mormon church.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Why would or should I care what book off parables anyone swears on? It isn't like it makes them unable to still be the lying, self serving piece piece of sit that they are going too be anyway?

He could use The Cat In The Hat and itwouldn'tmake one iota of a difference.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I'm sorry but that is just false. Go back and read the new testament. Christ founded One church and gave that church the power to bind and loose. He also gave that church a promise that he would guide the church and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it.

So, "guided" into 41,000 denominations?

Also, the gates of hell don't seem to have prevailed against Utah.

 

[Ktulu]

Who's authority are they supposed to get in order to do so? Gods? LOL

Made up book is made up.

The problem with this statement is that the church existed before the bible did. Also the bible is comprised of dozens of books written over a span of thousands of years. It wasn't written all at once with the intention of being one holy book.

 

[Ktulu]

So, "guided" into 41,000 denominations?

Also, the gates of hell don't seem to have prevailed against Utah.

Well you can thank Martin Luther for that. For the first 1000 years there was only 1 church, then came the split between the Catholic and the Orthodox, then eventually Martin Luther came and things went out of control. But the original church still remains, regardless of any splits.

 

[hal2kilo]

When he was sworn in as Governor of Massachusetts, he swore in on the Bible but he's not Christian.



http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/1/6/romney-sworn-in-as-mass-governor/

For some reason they like carrying around King James version of the bible for fun then.

 

[DominionSeraph]

The problem with this statement is that the church existed before the bible did.

And My Little Pony existed before the wiki. Doesn't mean that brightly colored talking equines actually exist.

 

[Ktulu]

And My Little Pony existed before the wiki. Doesn't mean that brightly colored talking equines actually exist.

That's cute.

 

[Todd33]

Islam is to Judaism like Mormons are to Christianity. A charismatic leader took the older religion as a base but adapted it and expanded it to a newer time and different people.

 

[jackschmittusa]

I'd rather that they swear on their personal integrity than fantasy storybooks and mythical gods.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Romney's critics think he'll swear the oath on The Book of Mormon.
Romney's supporters think he'll swear the oath on the Bible.

Obama's critics think he'll swear the oath on the Koran.
Obama's supporters think he'll swear the oath on the Bible.

Bottom line: Critics of either Obama or Romney are complete idiots on the question of what will the oath be sworn on.

He doesn't have to swear on anything. This is a strange troll thread though so I vote sorbet.