Will Romney be next President of the United States of America?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
Not sure I'd want another Bush in there, but worst things could happen.

I've met Jeb, personally I would have preferred him over Dubya.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Not sure I'd want another Bush in there, but worst things could happen.

I've met Jeb, personally I would have preferred him over Dubya.

Jeb would have made a far better President that W. As far as our choices? I don't think either party will come up with anyone who stands out. Most likely Hillary on one side and who the heck knows on the other. It probably will be the same old. The only prospect of change depends on how the Republicans govern over the next two years. It MIGHT be that the younger members will be more response to the public at large. Not saying that will happen, but McCain won't be around forever. Not betting the farm.
 

preCRT

Platinum Member
Apr 12, 2000
2,340
123
106
I expect Charlie Baker to run as a [GOP] candidate in 2020.

He'll probably be as successful as his predecessors:
Henry Cabot Lodge, Ted Kennedy, Paul Tsongas, Mike Dukakis, John Kerry, & Mitt Romney.
 
Last edited:

Anarchist420

Diamond Member
Feb 13, 2010
8,645
0
76
www.facebook.com
I don't think Hillary can win a general election; it would be political suicide for the Dems to nominate her. She is too uncompromising and she doesn't even apologize for her shit. She scares everyone with the way she comes on stage yelling and some hair styles she chooses and the cackling shit she does.

She's like Barry Goldwater and John Adams; always raging and then never apologizes. And she acts retarded too.

Hillary Clinton is an ENTJ and her whole cabinet would have to work around her like the ESTJ FDR's did; but Hillary is a true Executive type unlike FDR who could be fooled. FDR had some good people in his cabinet and if it hadn't been for them (as well as Robert A Taft and some other really good Republicans) then I don't know what would've happened.

Hillary Clinton will have to govern the u.s.a. from like fuckin' mars if she is elected President.

I'd be very happy with Elizabeth Warren because she would be at least somewhat pro-market if that is what the people demanded. I believe she is an INTP. But if she is an NFP then she is dangerous. I'd have to read more about her really.

So... I'm just going to say Jeb or Romney would be best and that I want to thank Jeb Bush's brother George for trying to protect those who would not initiate violence. Christie sucks--he's a pussy who supports gun control and he's too afraid to shut NJ's creditors out. Yet while taxes and spending aren't at all low in NJ, there is still a ton of State bureaucracy.

Basically, if Obama doesn't overturn Pelosi's anti-care bill soon then a Republican will be elected to the white house in a 2016 landslide despite Senseamp's wishes.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,320
126
I think and hope he will be given this latest Republican landslide and that the 2012 RNC rules were made in his favor for 2016. He's more popular than Obama. Hillary will go down in flames against him not only due to her skeleton closets (which Romney has none) but also due to the fact that Romney is a very polite man (at least when his senses aren't overloaded with new environments or hearing too many people talk for too long) while Hillary is rude, mean, disrespectful, and even annoying on purpose jack off the bat.

I just hope Rand Paul isn't the VP pick, but I can still support Mitt Romney anyway.

Elizabeth Warren is anti-bank but not anti-Fed and she has changed parties a few times. She's good, but true left wing populists cant get elected because they're socialists and the constitution doesn't allow for socialism in the u.s. Right wing populism (Jacksonian economics) is possible at any time b/c it doesn't require violent revolution; old order legislation (like the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and the Income Tax Acts) simply get repealed and replaced with no legislation.

While we may never have RW Populism in its truest Jacksonian form ... if govt revenues come to equal govt expenses and those 2 numbers are lowered at least some year after year then we can ignore monetary policy; although higher federal rates and even higher discount rates on bankrupt banks is also a good policy which makes good use of the Fed. The Fed shouldn't exist to be a constant bailout of huge banks.

the profits tax on corporations should be reduced to 1/8 (on profits earned in the u.s. only); the income tax rate should be 1/10, single filer only, only on wages, and only from $200k to $20mn. Deductions and credits could be done away with that way and there would be much lower IRS expenses due to less auditing. Social Security and Medicare taxes and benefits can be optional for all but as soon as one decides not to pay they lose their SS number (losing it is a good thing All other taxes should be repealed.
hahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaa........rofl.......hahahaaaaaa
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,197
126
Why are people bashing Romney? He gave a relatively honest representation of what you vote for when you vote Republican. Corporations are people my friend. At least you knew where he was coming from and who he would work for. He didn't even try to wrap himself in fake populism, it was job creator this, 47% that.
If he did a better job pretending to be for the average guy, why would that be a good thing? We already tried voting for the "compassionate conservative" lie.
 

DucatiMonster696

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2009
4,269
1
71
It doesn't matter what party you are from, if you lose the bid to become the president in your first try you will not be given a second chance. This is a unwritten rule in American politics.
 

inachu

Platinum Member
Aug 22, 2014
2,387
2
41
iF HE GETS VOTED IN THEN HOLY UNDERWEAR

will be sold at Target and WALMART.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
12,742
2,517
126
Nixon...?

Nixon's the exception to the rule and we have nothing like the conditions now like we had in 1968. The beginnings of skyrocketing inflation, Vietnam (which killed a hundred US soldiers for every one who has fallen in Afghanistan or Iraq), skyrocketing inflation and the general perception of being on the verge of an actual revolution.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,197
126
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/24/Mitt-Romney-Leads-GOP-New-Hampshire-2016-Poll

A new Bloomberg Politics/Saint Anselm New Hampshire poll shows that Mitt Romney leads the 2016 field with 30 percent support.
Sen. Rand Paul comes in second with 11 percent, followed by Gov. Chris Christie at 9 percent, and Jeb Bush at 8 percent.
Ted Cruz comes in at 5 percent while Texas Governor Rick Perry comes in last at 2 percent.
But what if Mitt Romney does not run for president in 2016? Romney supporters would then turn to Christie first with a 22 percent margin, followed by Bush at 20 percent, then Rand Paul at 19 percent.
 
Nov 25, 2013
32,083
11,718
136
It doesn't matter what party you are from, if you lose the bid to become the president in your first try you will not be given a second chance. This is a unwritten rule in American politics.

"It's fun to talk about the prospect of Mitt Romney running for president again, for a variety of reasons. We will grant our colleague Aaron Blake's assertion that Romney isn't actually popular enough to win in 2016, at least at this point. But the idea of Romney making a third consecutive run piqued our interest. How's that worked out in the past?


And the answer is: Pretty well, actually. Of the presidential candidates who have run three times and actually earned at least 20 percent of the vote in a general election, four of the five of them won two of the three races. One, poor old William Jennings Bryan, lost all three."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...er-of-times-to-run-for-president-two-or-four/
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
Jebs son could actually be a future Hispanic/Obama/Kennedy type of clone, I'd say he's a bit young yet.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
15,745
4,563
136
It doesn't matter what party you are from, if you lose the bid to become the president in your first try you will not be given a second chance. This is a unwritten rule in American politics.

Sounds like one of those conjured up make believe rules the media likes to put around like "You simply can't get reelected president when unemployment is at such and such a % point...".
 

Painman

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2000
3,728
29
86
It doesn't matter what party you are from, if you lose the bid to become the president in your first try you will not be given a second chance. This is a unwritten rule in American politics.

Richard Nixon, anyone?

If you want to count primaries... throw Ronald Reagan in there too, he ran in '76 as well as '80
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Why are people bashing Romney? He gave a relatively honest representation of what you vote for when you vote Republican. Corporations are people my friend. At least you knew where he was coming from and who he would work for. He didn't even try to wrap himself in fake populism, it was job creator this, 47% that.
If he did a better job pretending to be for the average guy, why would that be a good thing? We already tried voting for the "compassionate conservative" lie.

Romney was clueless. That's about the best I can say for any of the past contenders.

The Democrats have proven to be pandering liars who point at the Republicans and do pretty much the same thing. Reids chief assistant is a cable company exec for crying out loud. The chief advantage of the Republicans over the Democrats is that the last are hypocritical pharisees standing on the corners showing how righteous they are, while the Republicans are transparent scoundrels. Neither have much to recommend them.

We do not need new candidates, nor even new parties, but a whole new electoral process and to get rid of single party rule while in office. Proportional representation, limits on what a party can spend, and public financing of underdogs to offer choices, not illusions of hope and change.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,197
126
Romney was clueless. That's about the best I can say for any of the past contenders.

The Democrats have proven to be pandering liars who point at the Republicans and do pretty much the same thing. Reids chief assistant is a cable company exec for crying out loud. The chief advantage of the Republicans over the Democrats is that the last are hypocritical pharisees standing on the corners showing how righteous they are, while the Republicans are transparent scoundrels. Neither have much to recommend them.

We do not need new candidates, nor even new parties, but a whole new electoral process and to get rid of single party rule while in office. Proportional representation, limits on what a party can spend, and public financing of underdogs to offer choices, not illusions of hope and change.

All of which is opposed by the GOP, from SCOTUS on down.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
All of which is opposed by the GOP, from SCOTUS on down.

And when have the Democrats ever acted in a way which would cut their power and influence in order to have parties which might not be them? When have they cried out for proportional representation? When did their Congressmen and politicians not engage in cronyism?

No, they want to stack the deck against the Republican so they can control us just as much as the Republicans do. They want fair and that means their party rules.

No party will act in a way which will undercut themselves beyond window dressing.
 

Painman

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2000
3,728
29
86
People know what's up. The 2 party system is in a state of collapse. The best hope for either is to run towards the middle, as I feel that moderate lefties and righties may be on the verge of consensus as they run away from their respective fringes.

I'm also noticing the growth of micro-economics. People who can't overcome the barriers of entry to the marketplace via traditional means (Big Banking) are turning towards each other. Kickstarter and Patreon. Local cooperatives.

Large scale capitalism has turned its back on us, and gov't only licks its boot. We're looking for ways to band together and fend for ourselves now.

I think I'm becoming a Libertarian.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Dr Ben Carson 2016

I don't know anything about him so I did a search and the Young Turks had a video which I partly watched. No discussion of what he thinks, but instead they attacked his religious beliefs and that he's a Republican, utterly dismissing him as a person of any worth just as much as the most racist among us would dismiss him for being black.

Maybe he's worth looking into.