Will OCability of lower Winchesters go up when 3800+ released

[shira]

I think there are plans for a 3800+ (2.4GHz) AMD 64 Winchester some time this quarter. I assume the release of that CPU will mean that there have been improvements in the Winchester manufacturing process.

Also, my understanding is that all of the Winchesters are made in the same steppings, and their rated clock speed is based solely on how they test out. That is, the Winnies, regardless of their rated clock speed, are actually all identical CPUs, but some have just turned out to test out at a higher rated speed than others.

This being the case, it makes sense to me that, once the 3800+ is released, lower Winchesters manufactured from this point on will be based on the same improved process, and will therefore have higher ulimate overclocking potential.

Does this make sense to you?

Edit: Tweaked the title.

 

[miketheidiot]

the next steping (e0?) is supposed to come out soon which should allow 200-400 more MHZ oc at all levels. Myabe more if we get lucky.

 

[Jeff7181]

I doubt it... Intel isn't forcing AMD to release faster processors, so I would imagine they're concentrating their efforts on bring dual core CPU's ASAP. If Intel was actually threatening AMD's top of the line processors, I think you'd see a 2.4 GHz Winchester real soon... I don't know a single person who's Winchester isn't capable of running at 2.4, and most will do it at default voltage.

 

[CheesePoofs]

I don't think they really need to improve the manufactering process to hit 2.4, they probably just released the 90nm chips at low clock speeds to make sure there were no problems before they started hitting the faster speeds.

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
the next steping (e0?) is supposed to come out soon which should allow 200-400 more MHZ oc at all levels. Myabe more if we get lucky.

Do you know when this stepping is suppossed to come out, and if the 3000 and 3200 will use it? Also, is this the revision that will support SSE3?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: CheesePoofs


Do you know when this revision is suppossed to come out, and if the 3000 and 3200 will use it? Also, is this the revision that will support SSE3?

I think the Venice core (also 90nm) will support SSE3. And my recollection is that the initial Venice processors will be, like, 3200, 3400, and 3700. I think Venice is later this quarter or next quarter. There's also supposed to be a 3800 Winchester. Unfortunately, in the latest roadmap on AT, there's no differentiation by process type or capability.