Will Obama pull out our troops in Iraq?

[NoStateofMind]

I just wanted to see who really thinks he is going to pull out our troops in the time frame he stated. I think it was (correct me if I am wrong) within 16 months? Regardless thats part of what he ran on in the beginning and has since taken a back seat because of economic troubles. If you support Obama, please vote in the poll. Thank you

Oh yeah, I plan to revisit this thread after his said time to remove troops to prove a point.

 

[mxyzptlk]

I remember clearly him saying he would withdraw completely from Iraq. Then I found out that what he meant by "complete withdrawal" was leaving up to 75k troops stationed in Iraq. Now it seems that Iraq wants us out completely anyway so..

I have no effin clue, but I voted no.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I remember clearly him saying he would withdraw completely from Iraq. Then I found out that what he meant by "complete withdrawal" was leaving up to 75k troops stationed in Iraq. Now it seems that Iraq wants us out completely anyway so..

I have no effin clue, but I voted no.

 

[T2T III]

With the encouragement of Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi ... Yes, he will. Just like any good puppet would do.

 

[Fern]

No, he won't pull them all out on some *set-in-stone* timetable of his creation.

His supporters think he will. Technically it's not possible unles he closes our embassy - we alway have Marines stationed at an embassy. But, no, we'll have at a minimum advisors and trainers.

I belive his timetable is the same as McCain's - primarily dependant upon what the Iraqi's want, and based upon conditions on the ground as advised by our military.

Fern

 

[Lemon law]

I think Obama profoundly underestimates the complexities of Iraq, but still has the only doable over all strategy. The 75 K troops are going to be necessary to keep any of the neighboring countries from getting greedy, but costs will be cut to the bone with possible basing in Kuwait.

After that, Iraqi factions are going to have to come to some accommodations with each other or live in hellish conditions. GWB broke it and the US didn't fix it, and the world is going to be very distrustful of the US in future. As for Iraqi oil, they will hedge their bets by allowing multiple nations to have a piece of the development action.

Iraq will be viewed as a US foreign policy disaster. McCain would make things even worse.

 

[ProfJohn]

I don't think the troops will leave any faster with Obama than McCain,

We are too close to the finish line.
The death toll for the month of October is 13.

More Americans are dying in Chicago than are dying in Iraq.

 

[bctbct]

Iraq really isnt as complicated as most people would want you to believe.

Iraq hates us now

Iraq will hate us in 2 years

Iraq will hate us in 10 years

Iraq will hate us in 20 years

Iraq will hate us in 50 years

why waste more lives or money?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We are too close to the finish line.

There's a finish line?

 

[brencat]

Troops will likely be substantially out by the end of his first term. Definitely not in the first year, sorry to disappoint all the pacifists out there.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Fern
No, he won't pull them all out on some *set-in-stone* timetable of his creation.

His supporters think he will. Technically it's not possible unles he closes our embassy - we alway have Marines stationed at an embassy. But, no, we'll have at a minimum advisors and trainers.

I belive his timetable is the same as McCain's - primarily dependant upon what the Iraqi's want, and based upon conditions on the ground as advised by our military.

Fern

The difference is (and McCain backs this up), Obama wants a fixed date in order to force the hand of the Iraqi government, McCain thinks that a fixed date will just demoralize the Iraqi government so he's against it...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: brencat
Troops will likely be substantially out by the end of his first term. Definitely not in the first year, sorry to disappoint all the pacifists out there.

Yeah, anyone who opposes the war in Iraq is obviously a pacifist.

 

[Baked]

Yes, on January 21, 2009.

 

[palehorse]

The correct option is not listed for question #2... maybe during his second term... maybe...

 

[Balt]

I doubt it. We've thrown so much money over there I think we're going to stick around for a while. I don't think we're still going to be patrolling the streets in four years, though.

 

[bamacre]

And his promise of no permanent bases?

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I don't think the troops will leave any faster with Obama than McCain,

We are too close to the finish line.
The death toll for the month of October is 13.

More Americans are dying in Chicago than are dying in Iraq.

There are 20 times more Americans in Chicago than in Iraq, and most of them aren't wearing ceramic body armor. Why are you minimizing the loss of life over there?

To answer the question, I don't believe that Obama will significantly reduce our footprint in Iraq, and if he does, he will only move the forces to Afghanistan. But that's not why I'm voting for him. I'm voting for him mainly because I believe he's slightly less likely to attack Iran.

 

[ProfJohn]

Iraq is a war zone, Chicago is not.

People who go to Iraq have a reasonable expectation that they may be killed, people who go to Chicago do not.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: bamacre
And his promise of no permanent bases?

"permanent" is a tricky little word with a lot of nuances to flesh out.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: bamacre
And his promise of no permanent bases?

"promise" is a tricky little word with a lot of nuances to flesh out.

Yeah, it sure is.

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Iraq is a war zone, Chicago is not.

People who go to Iraq have a reasonable expectation that they may be killed, people who go to Chicago do not.

Oh, sorry, I thought we were close to the finish line.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: bamacre
And his promise of no permanent bases?

"permanent" is a tricky little word with a lot of nuances to flesh out.

Oh I get it, like the word "lie" was changed to mean "flexible" earlier this year? Words take on new meanings with politicians.