Will Nvidia And AMD Be Coming Out With Better Performing HD Card In 2014?

[ShintaiDK]

Will be impressive if 28nm->20nm can even match the performance gains of 40nm->28nm. There is a reason TSMC is promising a short gap between 20nm and 16nm FinFET.

Isnt that because the 16nm with Finfet in reality is 20nm with Finfet.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

They aren't getting the gains from the transistors they did with 40 -> 28, 40 -> 28 was actually really impressive once we got toward the end of it. 28 -> 20 will most likely not be like 40 -> 28, the only way it could is if the underlying uarch improves more than it did previously. Since AMD will be refining GCN, and Nvidia will be introducing Maxwell it might be possible but still highly unlikely.

28 -> 16 should be similar to 40 -> 28, I know it sucks but we're getting down there now.

 

[Cassius101]

You can already do 4K with ultra settings and some AA: http://hardocp.com/article/2013/11/01/amd_radeon_r9_290x_crossfire_video_card_review/7

50 to >60 fps is certainly playable. If you want extra juice, just slap a water cooling loop on these cards and a) stop their throttling and b) OC further.

Those are some of the most demanding games currently and its more than playable. On 20nm, I expect a single top GPU with a good OC to be playble at 4K with some AA enabled.

I always thought "Crossfire" meant a dual set up of AMD cards. Is that a dual card set up or is it this video card or one similar to it?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...174&CatId=7387

 

[Silverforce11]

I always thought "Crossfire" meant a dual set up of AMD cards. Is that a dual card set up or is it this video card or one similar to it?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...174&CatId=7387

Thats a single card of the CF review I linked. CF R290/X or SLI 780ti is enough for 4K gaming NOW if you can afford a 4K monitor, the price on these cards are a second thought.

 

[Pariah]

Will be impressive if 28nm->20nm can even match the performance gains of 40nm->28nm. There is a reason TSMC is promising a short gap between 20nm and 16nm FinFET.

Agreed, I think people are getting their hopes up way too high if they think there is going to be some new gaming golden age when 20nm products are released. How much did Intel gain when moving from SB(32)->IB(22)? Less than 10% on average?

We've gotten to the point where die shrinks are more about increasing efficiency and not huge speed gains. We're unlikely to ever see a single GPU product released that just blows the competition away like we did years ago. The low hanging optimization fruits have all been picked.

 

[24601]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35723970&postcount=543

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2352166&page=22

Post 542 and on.

 

[Arkaign]

Agreed, I think people are getting their hopes up way too high if they think there is going to be some new gaming golden age when 20nm products are released. How much did Intel gain when moving from SB(32)->IB(22)? Less than 10% on average?

We've gotten to the point where die shrinks are more about increasing efficiency and not huge speed gains. We're unlikely to ever see a single GPU product released that just blows the competition away like we did years ago. The low hanging optimization fruits have all been picked.

I think some of that is due to Intel focusing on mobile and integrated graphics though. A lot of the design emphasis on IB and Haswell wasn't to utilize the extra space for increases in raw CPU performance, but rather to combo the budget towards decreasing power/heat and improving their graphics (taking a much higher % of die space to do so!).

If Intel had decided to continue making processors that used the exact same power envelope as SB, and keeping the same transistor count for the GPU portion, the gains would be MUCH MUCH higher.

 

[el etro]

I'm planning to upgrade my GTX 680 4gb in Christmas 2014. I will also be buying.

The newest Nvidia card now is not performing so well on 4k settings. I am hoping there is a single card that will be released next year that would have 100-120fps on max settings with 4x AA for Crysis 3. It is best to see how Crysis performs since it requires a really high end PC for good performance on high settings.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-3gb-review/7

120FPS on Maxed AA Crysis 3(on 1080p) will require to you four times the horse power of a GTX 670. Two 780Ti at 1Ghz should do the work.