Will Nvidea finally showcase NV40 @ Cbit show? LINK

Flyermax2k3

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Yeah, hopefully ATI's R40 will be right behind it ;) :p
Oh, and just for your own sake: Nvidia's next-gen GPU is designated NV40, while ATI's next-gen GPU is called the R420.
You might want to change that before some Nvidiot or FanATIc comes after you ;)
 

bpt8056

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IIRC, both ATi and Nvidia won't be showcasing their future products at CeBit, at least not to the general public. However, they will probably show it to a selected few (under NDA, of course) in private quarters. The reason for ATi is that their policy is to announce a product when they expect the products to hit retail stores within 30 days. As for nVidia, they want to have a certain number (100,000?) of chips ready before they do the same. So it's very likely that it won't happen.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: VIAN
I hate this. I've been in suspense forever.

As are most everyone else here and across teh intarweb. 1337 H@x0rz teh world over have been awaiting NV40 & R420 for aeons now. Perhaps, some day all will be revealed but until then, have patience, young grasshopper.
 

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So them whats the tentative date for availability of next gen cards? ATi has ridden 9700 architecture for nearly two years now and Nvidia hasnt put out anything significantly better than ATi since the initial 9700 release.

So essentially we have had 18 months of fairly stagnant market with only refresh products being released.

What happened to 6 month refresh and 1 year product cycles?

:p

Akaz
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: Akaz1976
So them whats the tentative date for availability of next gen cards? ATi has ridden 9700 architecture for nearly two years now and Nvidia hasnt put out anything significantly better than ATi since the initial 9700 release.

So essentially we have had 18 months of fairly stagnant market with only refresh products being released.

What happened to 6 month refresh and 1 year product cycles?

:p

Akaz

Don't you remember? Both companies stated last year that they were moving to an 18 month product cycle.
 

Soulkeeper

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Akaz1976
So them whats the tentative date for availability of next gen cards? ATi has ridden 9700 architecture for nearly two years now and Nvidia hasnt put out anything significantly better than ATi since the initial 9700 release.

So essentially we have had 18 months of fairly stagnant market with only refresh products being released.

What happened to 6 month refresh and 1 year product cycles?

:p

Akaz

Don't you remember? Both companies stated last year that they were moving to an 18 month product cycle.


it's about time
too much stuff out there
it's getting cluttered and hard for the customers to figure what's best for them or even what is new and what is old

 

BFG10K

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I'm looking forward to seeing how these cards perform. They should go well with my new A64 system which I'll be building later this week. :)
 

nRollo

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I hate this. I've been in suspense forever.
There is only one solution Vian. Kill your new vid card jones by buying a 5800 like I did.

I'm looking forward to seeing how these cards perform. They should go well with my new A64 system which I'll be building later this week.
Which one are you buying BFG? I got a A64 3000+ Newcastle/MSI K8T-Neo for my annual board upgrade this year. No complaints so far, fast and stable with the 9800Pro. Looking forward to seeing how it will push the 5800.
 

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I'm looking forward to seeing how these cards perform. They should go well with my new A64 system which I'll be building later this week. :)

If you want to play current/upcoming DX9 games on a card twice as fast as R3xx-class cards, get an R420.
If you want to play future PS/VS 3.0 games on a card that has some serious potential for current/upcoming DX9 games as well, get an NV4x

-Just my two cents
P.S. If you want to know why I make my recommendations, read this (post # 20)
 

jasonja

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Well according to the Inquirer today, you won't be seeing a NV40/5 at Cebit or anytime soon for that matter. nVidia got wind they were going to be 2nd place again so they killed off the current NV40 and pushed up the release of the next chip which will make them late.

Reading between the lines means they will miss the big PCI Express transisition of the OEMs with their native PCI E part. So they are going to be pushing their old FX GPU's and the bridge real hard I bet. I think ATI is going to be inside of a lot of machines this year.
 

Luthien

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And we are comming to the final stretch. It is the final countdown. 2 Days to CBIT and Joy of all Joys OR nah it isnt out yet...
 

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This post has been brought to you by Flyermax2k3. If you disagree with the contents of this post: tough cookies!
Nick1985: a week ago you were pimpin' Nvidia, what happened?
VIAN: I got an ATI card.

FLYER I WANT TO SEE THIS THREAD! DID HELL FREEZE OVER?!?!! :eek:
 

Childs

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Is the Inquirer considered a reliable news source these days? I always thought it was the Enquirer of the IT world.
 

vshah

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AHHH i'm going insane with anticipation....i've had my $500 all saved up for the last 6 months...i'm going to be one of the first to buy whichever one of these cards is better.

geforce 2 ultra in a 3.0c just doesn't cut it anymore :(

-Vivan
 

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

If you want to play current/upcoming DX9 games on a card twice as fast as R3xx-class cards, get an R420.
If you want to play future PS/VS 3.0 games on a card that has some serious potential for current/upcoming DX9 games as well, get an NV4x

-Just my two cents
P.S. If you want to know why I make my recommendations, read this (post # 20)
If you want a card that will annihilate everything next gen, buy the upcoming XGI Volari QuadDuoSepto.

-Just my two cents
P.S. If you want to know why I make my recommendations, read this (SFW)


Now consider, one source is just as reliable as the other. :D

 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: jasonja
Well according to the Inquirer today, you won't be seeing a NV40/5 at Cebit or anytime soon for that matter. nVidia got wind they were going to be 2nd place again so they killed off the current NV40 and pushed up the release of the next chip which will make them late.

Reading between the lines means they will miss the big PCI Express transisition of the OEMs with their native PCI E part. So they are going to be pushing their old FX GPU's and the bridge real hard I bet. I think ATI is going to be inside of a lot of machines this year.

Here is the link to the story (for those who haven't read it): Inquirer story I can't believe that Nvidia bombed again. You would think they would have gone to some extremes to one up ATI. After going and spending gobs of money and time on the NV40 and finding out that that GPU wouldn't cut it.... they are jumping to the NV45 and calling it an NV40.

Heck, even if they pull it off by June... ATI will kick the a*s once again for several months and by that time could develop there own 16 pipeline mega card. Don't know if the story is 100% accurate (it is the inquirer) but they sound pretty confident.
 

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Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Originally posted by: jasonja
Well according to the Inquirer today, you won't be seeing a NV40/5 at Cebit or anytime soon for that matter. nVidia got wind they were going to be 2nd place again so they killed off the current NV40 and pushed up the release of the next chip which will make them late.

Reading between the lines means they will miss the big PCI Express transisition of the OEMs with their native PCI E part. So they are going to be pushing their old FX GPU's and the bridge real hard I bet. I think ATI is going to be inside of a lot of machines this year.

Here is the link to the story (for those who haven't read it): Inquirer story I can't believe that Nvidia bombed again. You would think they would have gone to some extremes to one up ATI. After going and spending gobs of money and time on the NV40 and finding out that that GPU wouldn't cut it.... they are jumping to the NV45 and calling it an NV40.

Heck, even if they pull it off by June... ATI will kick the a*s once again for several months and by that time could develop there own 16 pipeline mega card. Don't know if the story is 100% accurate (it is the inquirer) but they sound pretty confident.


According to yesterday's Inquirer article the R420 is shipping with 12 of a max 16 pipes. So it sounds like ATI already have a 16 mega pipe card.
 

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no no no no no! say it isnt so! I cant stand it anymore I am going to have a tantrum! WAAAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SOB...
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: jasonja
Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Originally posted by: jasonja
Well according to the Inquirer today, you won't be seeing a NV40/5 at Cebit or anytime soon for that matter. nVidia got wind they were going to be 2nd place again so they killed off the current NV40 and pushed up the release of the next chip which will make them late.

Reading between the lines means they will miss the big PCI Express transisition of the OEMs with their native PCI E part. So they are going to be pushing their old FX GPU's and the bridge real hard I bet. I think ATI is going to be inside of a lot of machines this year.

Here is the link to the story (for those who haven't read it): Inquirer story I can't believe that Nvidia bombed again. You would think they would have gone to some extremes to one up ATI. After going and spending gobs of money and time on the NV40 and finding out that that GPU wouldn't cut it.... they are jumping to the NV45 and calling it an NV40.

Heck, even if they pull it off by June... ATI will kick the a*s once again for several months and by that time could develop there own 16 pipeline mega card. Don't know if the story is 100% accurate (it is the inquirer) but they sound pretty confident.


According to yesterday's Inquirer article the R420 is shipping with 12 of a max 16 pipes. So it sounds like ATI already have a 16 mega pipe card.

My bad.... you're right. The inquirer did say that!!! ..... The anticipation is nerve racking! I am in the market for the next heav weight card (thinking it will be ATI)... I can't wait to see the benchmarks. The only thing that makes me wonder was Anand saying not to buy a card until June????? Of course no other info. I can't find where he stated (perhaps it's been archived?).;)