Will NV release a Maxwell card less than GTX750?

VirtualLarry

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Maybe something around the $50 mark, that's passively-cooled, and takes very little power, yet, could be gaming-capable, for suitably small values of capable?

Or are the SMXs in the low-end Maxwell already cut down to the smallest size?

Edit: Or is something like this, the best that I'm going to be able to do?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500346

I think I read something about EVGA GT730 cards, with 1GB GDDR5, and 384 SPs. Those aren't Maxwell, are they?

http://www.evga.com/articles/00847/EVGA-GeForce-GT-730/#3736
 
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SPBHM

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384 SPs = GK107...
it's Kepler.

that's the problem with low end cards, they keep using the same old GPUs as much as they can, so even if they release something cheaper based on Maxwell you are going to have to search carefully for one, right now only on laptops you can find Maxwell slower than the GTX 750, running with lower clocks and DDR3
 

jpiniero

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There is a 384 core Maxwell for laptops (840M) but there doesn't appear to be a desktop version.
 

VirtualLarry

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There is a 384 core Maxwell for laptops (840M) but there doesn't appear to be a desktop version.

That's too bad. I think that it would be a hot seller, among lower-end cards. Maybe they have a stockpile of older Fermi and Kepler low-end dies (salvaged?), that they need to get rid of first.
 

SPBHM

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There is a 384 core Maxwell for laptops (840M) but there doesn't appear to be a desktop version.

GM108 seems to be mobile only for now,

I think any VGA with 384sps at the moment for desktop is using GK107, nvidia 2 months ago announced the GT 740 which is also using Kepler, basically a GTX 650.
 

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cbn

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Spending $50 on a card like gt630 is a mistake and you should be looking at amd APU system instead.

I agree GT630 is a poor value.

However, I just wonder if the future of low end cards (in general) is stronger than we thought when AMD APU's CPU cores downclock when the iGPU is under load?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36563054&postcount=17

P.S. Not sure what kind of cooling is needed to keep the CPU from downclocking when AMD Overdrive is used?
 
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cbn

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There are quite a few passive 7750 (r7 250) designs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-565-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-681-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-092-_-Product

But somehow, passive cards ask for premium over fan versions.

Too bad those passive cards didn't have more Video outs. (Since there is no need to have the vents for a GPU fan, that space could be occupied by more ports)

Example:

14-150-681-TS
 

cbn

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I think I read something about EVGA GT730 cards, with 1GB GDDR5, and 384 SPs. Those aren't Maxwell, are they?

http://www.evga.com/articles/00847/EVGA-GeForce-GT-730/#3736

Nice form factor:

GT730_Dual.png


I like the dual slot design, but again, why the need for vents with that type of fan arrangement? (It looks like the fan dumps hot air into the case itself rather than out the back)

Instead, I would like to see the space occupied by the vents used for more Video outputs to help differentiate it from what I can commonly get from the Desktop iGPU (ie, VGA, DVI-D and HDMI). Two DVI-I, HDMI and display port (at the minimum) for me please.
 
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cbn

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Regarding the video outputs on the current Maxwell cards (750 GTX and 750 GTX Ti) at Newegg, I was disappointed to see that none of them could run two analog displays at the same time without an active adapter:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ize=100&Page=1

This, in contrast, to many of the current AMD cards which are capable of doing this.

Why do I think this is important? (particularly for the budget Maxwell card proposed by the OP)

Well, I think it is important because there are lots of flat panel VGA monitors on the used market (your local Craigslist, etc) going for next to nothing. For the budget power user (using a budget Maxwell card) being able to have two analog 1280 x 1024 (or better resolution) on each side and one 1080p middle makes a nice inexpensive multi-monitor set-up. (1280 x 1024 is great for web browsing/viewing web documents and the central 1080p is good for a central workspace or watching 1080p videos). These functions in addition to gaming, of course.

Therefore I would hope if a budget Maxwell card was introduced, it could accommodate at least two analog monitors in some way (without needing an active adapter).
 
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cbn

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That's too bad. I think that it would be a hot seller, among lower-end cards. Maybe they have a stockpile of older Fermi and Kepler low-end dies (salvaged?), that they need to get rid of first.

I've been watching the low end Nvidia cards you are referring to for a while now and one thing I am noticing is that they don't go on sale very often.

I wonder if we might be in for a long wait for desktop GM108.
 
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