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Will I notice a difference upgrading from a 5-year old LCD to a new LED?

The Sauce

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I have a Samsung 226BW which is getting a little long in the tooth but still works great and looks fine. This week staples is having a great deal on the Samsung XL2370HD LED 2ms monitor with TV tuner ($239 - 10% email code = $215). It is supposed to be one of the top TN LED monitors out there.

I can get it for around $190 with a few gift cards and stuff I have laying around. Seems almost too good to pass up but I look at my 226BW and can't really imagine something looking much better. Does LED make that big a difference? $190 really isnt that much money to me but I don't want to get it and go "meh, not much difference." Know what I mean?
 

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I acally have the XL2370HD monitor (see link below for picture of mine) and the P2770FH in a dual monitor setup. The monitor was much brighter and had whiter whites than my both of my older dual monitors setup which was HP 23” NEC 19’. Just sold the NEC 19” GX902 on e-bay for $120.00 with shipping charges in 4 days. It made my two-year-old HP LCD 23’ and my NEC LCD white look yellowish by comparison and dim. That was with trying to get the 2 older LCD’s as close as I could to the Samsung 2370HD.

The LED can go very bright but the white kind of looks like a fluorescent whitish white hard to explain you have to see it next my newer non LED LCD P2770FH (which also put the NEC and HP to shame in the exact same way) to know what I mean. I like the white better on the P2770FH. But if I didn’t have the P2770FH sitting next to the 2370 you wouldn’t see the difference to know it and the 2370HD blew my older two monitors away with the brightness and whites.

The Samsung XL2370HD is a nice monitor, bright and has a nice PQ imo. You can also change the color setting with the supplied remote control which is pretty cool. I paid $219.00 out the door and think it is well worth it for $219.00 imo.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2126520&page=2

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Well I guess that you should buy it. LED displays offers more vivid colors than simple LCD because they have the option to turn on or off the backlight resulting to better presentation of dark colors.
 

Synomenon

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If the panel is TN, LED backlighting won't make it look any better than a cheaper IPS monitor. Take a look at Dell's U2211H or U2311H instead.
 

wirednuts

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if comparing similar screens, i have never noticed a difference from LED backlit to CCFL. i just like LED for the longevity sake, but otherwise they both do about the same exact thing.

i have a samsung 225bw and i havent traded it in yet. mainly because i spent $360 on it back in the day, but also because the newer budget screens actually have a worse picture. if you do trade in your monitor, get a nice IPS model and dont worry so much about the backlighting (unless its a localized LED backlight... thats the only way you can get darker blacks. not all LED screens have localized dimming)
 

corkyg

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I have two active Thinkpad laptops. One is CFL backlit and the other is LED. The LED provides a more even display, uses less power, and runs cooler. As for the actual image displayed - not much difference to the naked eye. Longevity is also better with the LED display.
 

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The handle of the bag containing my Fujitsu notebook slipped out of my hand not too long ago when I was trying to leave the lab in haste. The well padded bag fell only about a foot & a half but it took out the CCFL.

LEDs are much much more rugged.
 

0roo0roo

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Well I guess that you should buy it. LED displays offers more vivid colors than simple LCD because they have the option to turn on or off the backlight resulting to better presentation of dark colors.

another victim of marketing.

all false.
 

The Sauce

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Appreciate the opinions. IPS is not an option here because of cost and also this will be gaming monitor in large part, so I think TN is a must. Perfect color reproduction is not important for what I do.
 

The Sauce

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Got the XL2370HD for a grand total of $198 with tax. Looks great. I notice a big improvement over the 226BW. The whites on the 226 now seem yellow to me. the contrast and brightness is much better and the whites and darks are noticeably better.
 

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I am not saying that I am not a victim of marketing but as you say "all false" then LED Backlit perfroms the same as a conventinal LCD...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_television

That's talking about LED televisions with local dimming. No LED monitors that I'm aware of have that feature, especially ones as "small" as 23" - largely because their primary usage models are different.

Regarding the points about reliability, LCD monitors typically fail due to problems with the high-voltage inverter. LED monitors don't need these, but may have other failure points - it's too early to tell.
 

0roo0roo

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I am not saying that I am not a victim of marketing but as you say "all false" then LED Backlit perfroms the same as a conventinal LCD...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_television

did you notice 3 kinds.
guess which are in monitors. edge lit. least advantage.
things like whether the monitor is ips type panel are far more important than the type of marketing backlight. some of the nicest graphic designer high color gamut monitors are ccfl, some of the cheapest ugliest looking netbook screens are led. there is no magic there. it is no given that it is better in terms of quality. led is thinner, and can use a little less power if edge lit, but it has been severely over sold.
 

bendixG15

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Don't kill LED technology yet. It's just out of the gate, hasn't been around much longer than a year or so. Give the technology a chance to mature.

I agree that LEDs have been oversold, but that's on the potential. Besides, women like thin.
 

Throckmorton

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The TV tuner might mean that the monitor has hardware in between the inputs and the display, so you might end up with much more input lag than a regular monitor.
 

The Sauce

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The TV tuner might mean that the monitor has hardware in between the inputs and the display, so you might end up with much more input lag than a regular monitor.

Now you tell me?!? Bastard! And you are correct, just checked and GtG is 5ms. Sigh. Oh well. Fortunately I am not a competitive gamer.
 

CurseTheSky

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Now you tell me?!? Bastard! And you are correct, just checked and GtG is 5ms. Sigh. Oh well. Fortunately I am not a competitive gamer.

5ms is nothing. I'm fairly sensitive to input lag, and anything lower than 20-30ms is virtually impossible for me to notice. The only monitor I've had problems gaming on is the Dell 2408WFP.