Will HPNA work without active phone service?

[Kwad Guy]

Here's the question:

I'd like to HPNA 2.0 network a computer in an apartment that does not currently have active phone service. (The phone jacks are all there and wired up, but the person who lives there doesn't have phone service--uses their cell phone). They're using a firewall with an HPNA bridge, so they're all set on that front. The question is: Will HPNA work without active phone service?

Kwad

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

It should, I don't see why because the HPNA 2.0 operates at different frequencies than phone services. So it doesn't even use it at all. The only problem you may run into is getting it to work because in my previous apartment the did the wiring differently and it wouldn't work.

 

[Lord Evermore]

As long as all the phone jacks are connected to a common wire, you should be able to do it. The HPNA adapter sends its own signal over the wire at a different frequency than phone service, and doesn't use the power from the phone service at all. If the jacks aren't common though, then one jack won't be able to reach the other.

You can get a tone generator to test whether two jacks are connected to each other.

 

[Tokar]

Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
As long as all the phone jacks are connected to a common wire, you should be able to do it. The HPNA adapter sends its own signal over the wire at a different frequency than phone service, and doesn't use the power from the phone service at all. If the jacks aren't common though, then one jack won't be able to reach the other.

You can get a tone generator to test whether two jacks are connected to each other.

yeah make sure the jacks were all on the same phonenumber...and you should be good...
common wire like Evermore said...

 

[StormRider]

It should because you can connect the HPNA computer directly with plain telephone wire -- so going through the phone lines in your house (even with no active phone service) should work fine.

BTW, I'm using HPNA to network my home -- works great! But it seems like it's not as popular as other methods. When I go to the store, I see a lot of wireless and Powerline networking stuff. I hope HPNA can survive and make it -- I like it a lot.

 

[benjamit]

whats wrong with good old ethernet?

 

[EeyoreX]

whats wrong with good old ethernet?

My assumption is to network in several different rooms. So ethernet might not be a good idea. I don't really want to buy and run hundreds (or even dozens) of feet of ethernet wire. Nor do I feel overly comfortable with wireless at this point in an apartment setting.

\Dan

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: DEATH
whats wrong with good old ethernet?

Most people don't have the cables. Just about everyone has telephone cables.

I love it. It's obviously more consistent than wireless is, so for a wired computer, I'd recommend HPNA 2 over wireless.

I use wireless for my laptop though.

BTW, POTS, HPNA, and DSL can all exist on the same line. I've done it, and it works fine.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: EeyoreX

whats wrong with good old ethernet?

My assumption is to network in several different rooms. So ethernet might not be a good idea. I don't really want to buy and run hundreds (or even dozens) of feet of ethernet wire. Nor do I feel overly comfortable with wireless at this point in an apartment setting.

\Dan

If you're worried about security over wireless, just make sure you've got 128 bit WEP active, and you exclude unknown MAC addresses. Not completely foolproof, but it's not as if you're a bank or something.

The one advantage of wireless (besides being wireless) is that now you can get 54 Mbps speeds. I'd suspect that in range, you'd could get at least half of that real-life, which would be MUCH faster than HPNA 2.0. It's $$$ though, and like I said before, HomePNA is more consistent. (No problems of interference from 2.4 GHz phones, microwaves, thick walls, etc.)

 

[McCarthy]

Say, long as you all are talking HPNA, any of you used it in a home with DSL? Any trouble with it and the DSL interferring with each other?

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: McCarthy
Say, long as you all are talking HPNA, any of you used it in a home with DSL? Any trouble with it and the DSL interferring with each other?

Works fine. Check my previous message. Just make sure you don't put the filters in the wrong place.

 

[McCarthy]

Ooops, missed that last line there, Eug. Thanks bud, think I'll break out my old HPNA v1.0 stuff and hook it back up. SLOW, but other computers don't need much. Right now they have nothing.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: McCarthy
Say, long as you all are talking HPNA, any of you used it in a home with DSL? Any trouble with it and the DSL interferring with each other?

Yes, I'm using it with DSL and a Linksys Ethernet/HPNA router/bridge. Works fine. Regular phone calls, DSL and HPNA networking work fine together.