Will Dial Up be getting faster ?

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Not likely, at least if you're talking about download speeds. The latest standard, V.92 increased the upload speed to 48,000 bps, but the download remained the same at 56,000.

Broadband is the future, dial-up is dying off except in rural areas.

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Probably not. 56k is pushing copper to the limit. The alternative is DSL, which may or may not blow, depending on your provider and proximity to your CO.

In ten years land lines will be a thing of the past for most of the US. Voice calls will be wireless. Network based communications will NOT be over modems, that's for sure.
 

erub

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I'm not so sure about the wireless - wireless call quality sucks compared to land lines, so it will have to improve a good amount to become many ppl's only phone. Broadband will definitely be in the future though
 

Wireless totally sucks in 2001. By 2011 I am sure thing will have changed drastically.
 

pm

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Dial-up will get incrementally faster. Current 56k modems are limited in download by signalling issues to ~52k, these are getting changed and 56k will be possible. Uploads will increase from a peak of 33.6k to 48k (as Viper said). Beyond this it's pretty much hit the theoretical limit.

DSL will probably be extended farther and farther out. DSL which is six miles away from the CO is in trial.
Cable will become more and more widely available.
Wireless will become more widely available.
Satellite will cover those areas not already covered by those above.

Eventually our grandchildren will have FTTC (fibre to the curb) access.
 

oldfart

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The new V.92 has V.44 compression Vs. the V.42bis. This will improve speed in highly compressible web apps (like this forum).
 

max105

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supposedly they've hit their limits. I remember reading or hearing from someone or somewhere that phonelines are capable of greater bandwidth, but regular modems aren't utilizing all the frequencies availible on the phone line. That's where DSL comes in and uses the potential of the phone line by transferring information on all frequencies on the wires.

Don't quote me on this, but that's what I remember.
 

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<< The new V.92 has V.44 compression Vs. the V.42bis. This will improve speed in highly compressible web apps (like this forum). >>


This is quite true. I have read several articles and it looks like eventually they will be making better compreission for dial-up which will increase speeds. Some estimates put it at around 300k down, and like 56k upload. However, it could be a year or two until we see this offered by ISP's and it is not certain yet whether the new compression will make you purchase a new modem. Obviously a broadband solution is better, but for people with no broadband available (in other words, most people) the new compression could help greatly.
 

oldfart

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You have to realize what this actually means. Much of what is on the web is already compressed. Zip files, exe's, gifs, MP3 files, etc. Hardware based compression such as V42, V44, try to compress data on the fly. A big text based web page like this one is highly compressible, and you will see an improvement. Downloading that new 100 meg game demo wont be any different than it is now.