Will Antec p180 quiet this system significantly or not?

faraxon

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I currently have the system below.

AMD Athlon 64 2800+ Socket 754 Stock HSF non-OC
Abit KV8-Pro
OCZ EL 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR 400 Dual Channel Kit
Sapphire Radeon X800 XT 256MB AGP
2 WD Raptor WD360GD RAID 0
1 WD Caviar SE WD1200JB
Chieftec Dragon Case Black
Antec TRUE480 480W PSU
LITE-ON Combo Drive SOHC-5232K
Sony Black 1.44 Floppy

Im wanting to know If getting an Antec p180 will quiet this rig down a significant amount or not.
 

natethegreat

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What sig?!?!

Edit: A case will not actively silence your computer, your level of silence achieved will depend greatly on the components installed in the case
 

Bobthelost

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No. Quiet components in a crap case won't be loud, but loud components in a great case will still be loud.

Ditch the stock cooling. Think about a PSU with 120mm thermally controlled fan like seasonic s12 or enermax liberty. Think about a vf700 or Arctic cooling GPU cooler.

The P180 might muffle it a bit, but not all that much.
 

natethegreat

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Originally posted by: faraxon
I currently have the system below.

AMD Athlon 64 2800+ Socket 754 Stock HSF non-OC
Abit KV8-Pro
OCZ EL 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR 400 Dual Channel Kit
Sapphire Radeon X800 XT 256MB AGP
2 WD Raptor WD360GD RAID 0
1 WD Caviar SE WD1200JB
Chieftec Dragon Case Black
Antec TRUE480 480W PSU
LITE-ON Combo Drive SOHC-5232K
Sony Black 1.44 Floppy

Im wanting to know If getting an Antec p180 will quiet this rig down a significant amount or not.
The short answer is no.

If you think you system is loud now, chances are it will be just a hair less noisy in the P180. You also have to take into the account the unusual psu mounting location and whether you psu cable will make the reach to your boards power connections without the aid of extensions. If you are interested in making your rig less noisy definately ditch the stock cooling on the cpu and gpu. Something like an AC Freezer 7 or the Scythe Ninja for the cpu and a Zalman VF-900 for the gpu would be a good place to start. All those Hard drives make a lot of waste heat and noise, not good for silencing. A seasonic S12 430 and 3 or 4 Yate-Loon D12Sl-12 case fans hooked up to a fan controller would round out the package. Take a look at the pic in my sig, it's not silent but it is pretty quiet :)
 

0roo0roo

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no, not true. dragon cases are about as loud as they get, they were made for airflow with thin panels and tons of direct venting with small fans for sound to just leak everywhere.. even with stock cooling the p180 would be like night and day. now its not going to get into "silence" some of us seek unless youreplace some of the stock coolers. its easier to not make the noise in the first place than to dampen it out later. but quiet componenets in a dragon case would be louder than normal compenents in a p180. case design for noise is veryvery important.
 

Shadowknight

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The P180 is made to
A) decrease overall vibration from moving components
B) Provide cool air to the PSU, decreasing the chance that the fan speed will increase due to higher thermals causing the cooling fan to speed up (thus getting louder)
C) decrease transmission of vibrations from hard drives to the case
D) Provide overall good system cooling, allowing fans to be run slower while still cooling system components efficiently
E) The door itself muffles noise by blocking the front bezel noise from air and optical drive movement
F) The front bezel pulls air from the side instead of the front, preventing a direct path of airflow noise from the front, a normal design in most ATX cases.

The thicker walls of the case are meant to deal with vibration, but due to being thicker than aluminum/steel/or plastic used by itself compared to other cases, it will muffle internal noise a bit, but not that much. Quieter components are still necessary to make a noticable difference in noise instead of just the case. The Antec Tri-cools are okay at low speed, though there are better fans out there. You need a passive Northbridge Cooler on your motherboard, a quiet VGA cooler, and a quiet CPU cooler to make the greatest difference in noise output from your computer.
 

grimlykindo

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Originally posted by: Shadowknight
The P180 is made to
A) decrease overall vibration from moving components
B) Provide cool air to the PSU, decreasing the chance that the fan speed will increase due to higher thermals causing the cooling fan to speed (thus getting louder)
C) decrease transmission of vibrations from hard drives to the case
D) Provide overall good system cooling, allowing fans to be run slower while still cooling system components efficiently
E) The door itself muffles noise by blocking the front bezel noise from air and optical drive movement
F) The front bezel pulls air from the side instead of the front, preventing a direct path of airflow noise from the front, a normal design in most ATX cases.

The thicker walls of the case are meant to deal with vibration, but due to being thicker than aluminum/steel/or plastic used by itself compared to other components, it will muffle internal noise a bit, but not that much. Quieter components are still necessary to make a noticable difference in noise instead of just the case. The Antec Tri-cools are okay at low speed, though there are better fans out there. You need a passive Northbridge Cooler on your motherboard, a quiet VGA cooler, and a quiet CPU cooler to make the greatest difference in noise output from your computer.
Wow... I give this post an A+

Your case is maybe 10% responsible for the noise problems - the other 90% is fans!
 

Dribble

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What is making the noise at the moment?
If it's the graphics card, cpu or psu then a quieter case will only help slightly.
If it's the case fans (easy to test, just disconnect them for a few mins) then using a quieter case will make a big difference.
If it's the graphics card then stick a quieter cooler on it (e.g. one of the artic or zalman one's). The cpu stick a quieter fan on that...etc

natethegreat has a good point about the psu mounting position - pretty high chance that the cables to power the motherboard won't actually reach in a P180 so check how long the ones with your existing psu are before buying.
 

0roo0roo

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believe me, its more than 10% difference. the thick nonresonating walls and right fit will keep much of the noise in, the harddrives are buffered with rubber and that cuts down on whine vibration noise. the vents in the front are indirect, baffled slightly so its indirect path for noise. its everything a dragon case is not. plus the dragons 80mm fans mounted in plastic fittings...horrible stuff. i've had a dragon, its thin, its loud. the dragons 80mm 4-5fans is probably louder than any components in your computer, its seriously loud stuff, even if you put in a fan speed controller.