Will a Pentium 4 Northwood suffice for HTPC?

[severus]

I'm not really talking HD/Bluray here since I doubt that. I have a 2.6 800mhz Northwood sitting on my desk for over a year now. Also have about 3 gigs of pc3200. Been contemplating grabbing a sub $20 Aopen/Abit/Soyo mATX board and putting it in an htpc case and attaching it via composite to my 39" unless there's a PCI/AGP card with an HDMI port (doubt it). Basically just want to use it to play movies and music, don't need all the bells and whistles. Anyone ever try it?

 

[cubby1223]

I used to run an htpc off a via epia-m system. Then later a pentium !!! 1ghz system with a GeForce 6200 with digital output.

Your P4 cpu is far more powerful than those. Just grab an agp card with dvi output and get an adapter to hdmi.

 

[NutBucket]

What format are the movies you want to play? My core2 laptop could not play high bit-rate 1080p MKV files at native resolution due to the crap video chipset, for example.

 

[dagamer34]

It's not going to handle anything above 480p very well, with 720p being borderline and 1080p out the window. Also, it's going to suck down a ton of power relative to what it's doing. What kind of HTPC things will you be doing with it? At this point, a Roku running Plex is far more power and space efficient, does 1080p content, and only costs $99. Plus, it makes no noise and comes with a remote.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I have the best PCI card you can get (a GT 430) and it sucks. I mean it can play all my videos but it drives my HTPC at 20fps while my regular PCIe 430 drives it at 60fps. If you are going to go all 2002 and just click and play the media files with a mouse its fine, but if you want to run a modern interface like XBMC it sucks. AGP options are all much worse than my card too.

Plus you take into account the extra heat, noise and power usage of that era tech and its just not worth it. Donate it to charity.

 

[assassin24]

I agree. Time to move on.

 

[Maximilian]

I would just turf it.

 

[cubby1223]

There were a few socket 478 boards made with pcie slots.

 

[pauldun170]

I got rid of my P4 box last summer.
P4 2.8 and a 7600gt AGP card
1080p was a pipe dream.
720p was doable.
Fairly useless as an HTPC unless you could deal with lower resolutions.
It served well when it was hooked up to a CRT tube TV pushing 480

Do not bother with Northwood P4's. Do not upgrade, do not waste time on it. Put zero $$$ into it.

 

[Savij]

Edit again: I could have sworn that you could get some PCIe mobos for that but I guess not...scrap it.

 

[Zorander]

I'd sell those RAM chips (which I'm sure still fetch a price) and, perhaps, the CPU. It can substantially kick-start building a low-end budget system (which will easily play any media contents).

I really wouldn't put any more money into a decade-old CPU.

 

[Rasterman]

Yeah not worth it, if you plan on keeping it any length of time, it will actually be cheaper to buy a brand new energy efficient system than run that p4wer hog.

When I upgraded my old C2D I save over $70/year in electric, after a few years it adds up.

 

[severus]

I do have a GA-965P-DS3 board but i'm not sure if the bios is dead on it and I don't have a 775cpu to test on it. I might run to microcenter and buy a $4 pentium D throw it on with 2 gigs of ddr2 and see if it works. That should be a bit of an upgrade. I know a Pentium D is a terrible processor, but a $4 experiment plus the 10 minute trip to Microcenter won't hurt the bank all that much. If the board does indeed work, I can always buy a low end 775 dual core like an e2160 or e4400 which should be ample enough to run 1080p with a pci express card

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you got a PCI-E motherboard, and like a 6450 PCI-E card, then it might be viable. Otherwise, junk it.

 

[cheez]

Will a Pentium 4 Northwood suffice for HTPC?

Um no.


cheez

 

[CU]

I used a P4 1.8 with a PCI 8400gs with mythtv within the last 12 months and it worked ok for SD live TV and PVR. The 8400gs should handle 1080i/p also, but I never tried it.

 

[EskLuxor]

i have a dell e6400 laptop with Core2Duo 2.26 4gb 250 5400rpm, it has some crap integrated graphics. it handles 720p mkv just fine and most lower bitrate 1080p mkvs. larger 1080p mkvs show stutter/framerate issues. it plays local media on hd, on 16gb flash, and streamed media across my network from shared 3tb hds on a i7 2600k. i have a amd 4400+ 2.4ghz with 2gb 320 7200rpm 8600gts OC that plays all media w/o issues.

 

[Matt1970]

i have a dell e6400 laptop with Core2Duo 2.26 4gb 250 5400rpm, it has some crap integrated graphics. it handles 720p mkv just fine and most lower bitrate 1080p mkvs. larger 1080p mkvs show stutter/framerate issues. it plays local media on hd, on 16gb flash, and streamed media across my network from shared 3tb hds on a i7 2600k. i have a amd 4400+ 2.4ghz with 2gb 320 7200rpm 8600gts OC that plays all media w/o issues.

Clock for Clock a Core 2 Duo is probably 4 times faster than a P4.

 

[mikeymikec]

My P3-866 with a GeForce 4MX can handle most video formats and (scale) output them at 1080p - anything that it can offload onto the graphics card. I use VLC for video playback.

It didn't have a hope of handling the amount of videos it can handle now before I put that graphics card in. Its hardware acceleration support for video formats isn't universal but it handles about 95% of the videos I've played on it.

I'm retiring that computer shortly, sadly (IMO). It's nice to see a bit of kit that is still completely reliable and yet pretty damn old, but I rely on it too much to keep trusting to luck.

There are AGP cards with DVI ports, and you can get a DVI -> HDMI adapter from there. Plug the computer's audio out to the television's auxilliary audio in and you're set (I think). My server is hooked up by VGA to my TV, with an audio connector in the way I just described.

 

[el-Capitan]

My P3-866 with a GeForce 4MX can handle most video formats and (scale) output them at 1080p - anything that it can offload onto the graphics card. I use VLC for video playback.

It didn't have a hope of handling the amount of videos it can handle now before I put that graphics card in. Its hardware acceleration support for video formats isn't universal but it handles about 95% of the videos I've played on it.

I'm retiring that computer shortly, sadly (IMO). It's nice to see a bit of kit that is still completely reliable and yet pretty damn old, but I rely on it too much to keep trusting to luck.

There are AGP cards with DVI ports, and you can get a DVI -> HDMI adapter from there. Plug the computer's audio out to the television's auxilliary audio in and you're set (I think). My server is hooked up by VGA to my TV, with an audio connector in the way I just described.

OMG! That's awesome!

Great to see some older HW still pulling its load. I remember that I too had a Geforce 4mx (440?) for a while. Couldn't afford anything better during my student years in the UK. Good times!

 

[skillyho]

I have a s478 P4 @ 3.2 with a Radeon 9250 connected via DVI and it does 480P stuff (xvid/divx) fine as well as YouTube. 720p is tolerable but with random loss....

Ehh...it's doable. I would get a Radeon 3650 or something like that to offload the processing to the GPU and see what happens. You can get them on eBay for $15-$20 if you're patient.

 

[nextJin]

You can build such a cheap HTPC these days that plays most anything I wouldn't bother even trying with that CPU. It's an HTPC it will likely be on quite a bit, a new setup might even pay for itself after a year or two.

 

[holden j caufield]

just get a new one btw my Pentium M 1.3ghz laptop played videos way better than my 2.2ghz Pentium 4 laptop. Pentium 4s were crap

 

[IndyColtsFan]

It's not going to handle anything above 480p very well, with 720p being borderline and 1080p out the window. Also, it's going to suck down a ton of power relative to what it's doing. What kind of HTPC things will you be doing with it? At this point, a Roku running Plex is far more power and space efficient, does 1080p content, and only costs $99. Plus, it makes no noise and comes with a remote.

Be forewarned, though - playing MKVs on a Roku via Plex requires transcoding and you do need a decent backend box.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

I had a P4@3.6 GHz Prescott, so one generation above the OP's CPU.
It was paired with a Radeon HD3850.
It was *barely* able to display 1080p mkv content - it worked, but CPU utilization was really high.

I can't see the OPs rig working for HTPC purposes, unless there will be no 1080i/p playback.