Will a ECS k7s5a support a 2600+ Barton chip??

[Kaieye]

TIA!

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

are you too lazy to even visit the ECS website and find out?

 

[BTSpope]

i believe that board will only take t-breds and palominos. There is a 2600+ out the that is 266fsb if you want the upgrade, but the 2600+ barton isnt going to work

 

[nick1985]

i dont think so

 

[JackBurton]

No.

 

[John]

100/133 FSB cpu's only

Pick up a nForce2 ultra solution for ~$65

 

[bluemax]

I'll look, but I wonder if it'll take an Applecore?

 

[drag]

No your k7s5a won't support a 2600+, or at least I wouldn't waste my money on it.

And Yes there is no point to looking it up on ECS's webpage because they are incredably vague about this sort of thing.


I have one of those k7s5a, and they are kinda junky boards, but once your used to their weirdness they are blazing fast for what they are.

What they are, of course, is obsolete.

I used honeyX BIOS hacks to get some overclocking features and used a 1700+ OC'd to about 1.8ghz. Dead stable once booted, but the board would lock up if rebooted when it was too hot. 144, 147mhz buss speeds are attanable and be perfectly stable. 166 is completely unobtainable.

But there is no point in upgrading these things anymore, not with Nforce2 and kt400-kt600 boards so incredably cheap. Especially since they can't support any modern AGP cards.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: drag
No your k7s5a won't support a 2600+, or at least I wouldn't waste my money on it.

And Yes there is no point to looking it up on ECS's webpage because they are incredably vague about this sort of thing.

Is that because of the bus speed (in which case the mobile bartons are 266 should work) or because of the core itself? I only ask because I think we have a k7s5a sitting around the house somewhere with no cpu

 

[John]

Originally posted by: Kaieye
Will a ECS k7s5a support a 2600+ Barton chip??

No, but it will support a Tbred 266FSB 2600+ (rare).

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: Kaieye
Will a ECS k7s5a support a 2600+ Barton chip??

No, but it will support a Tbred 266FSB 2600+ (rare).

waste a fine cpu then if he does ..

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: drag
No your k7s5a won't support a 2600+, or at least I wouldn't waste my money on it.

And Yes there is no point to looking it up on ECS's webpage because they are incredably vague about this sort of thing.

Is that because of the bus speed (in which case the mobile bartons are 266 should work) or because of the core itself? I only ask because I think we have a k7s5a sitting around the house somewhere with no cpu

I think that there is some archatectural differences that preclude using Barton chips on a k7s5a. About 60-70% sure, and I wouldn't waste money on trying to make it work.

Best value I ever made in computers, other then learning howto use Linux,

Bought it late 2001, a hundred bucks or so. 1.13 thunderbird, with 96megs of SDRAM and a 2gig "bigfoot" 5.25 harddrive, and a Riva card with TV-out.(couldn't afford a monitor) It was to replace my old 400mhz celeron machine (that I got for free after recovering the harddrive from it, when my dad stuck a screwdriver in the power supply while forgetting to unplug it first (bad fan causing overheating)). So I gutted the 400 and stuck the parts in the 1.13t-bird.

In it's final incarnation I had that thing with a 80gig WD 8meg "special edition" harddrive, 768 megs of DDR ram, geforce2-gts video card, and a 1700+ OC'd to around 1.8ghz.

You can go out and get a 2000+ retail CPU from Newegg for less then 60 dollars and get yourself a great performing server.

One big tip: These boards got a bad rep by morons who were to cheap to go out and buy proper OC'ing-capable boards. In reality they are very fast performing (due to the integrated north/south bridge chip) OEM-style motherboard with no special features or capabilities.

They have 2 serious design flaws, the first one is a buggy IDE controller in some boards that will corrupt data if used in DMA mode, Linux kernels incorporated a fix in either 2.4.16 or 2.4.18 kernels (something like that).

The second one is that the integrated chipset's heatsink was afixed with a very crappy heatsink pad. If you have a old 486-style heatsink you can chop up a bit, or at least scrap off the pad off of the old one, then refix it with some heatsink epoxy glue then it will keep the motherboard much happier and increase stability.

Then you can probably run the thing 24/7 for the next couple years with little issues.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: drag
No your k7s5a won't support a 2600+, or at least I wouldn't waste my money on it.

And Yes there is no point to looking it up on ECS's webpage because they are incredably vague about this sort of thing.

Is that because of the bus speed (in which case the mobile bartons are 266 should work) or because of the core itself? I only ask because I think we have a k7s5a sitting around the house somewhere with no cpu

I think that there is some archatectural differences that preclude using Barton chips on a k7s5a. About 60-70% sure, and I wouldn't waste money on trying to make it work.

Best value I ever made in computers, other then learning howto use Linux,

Bought it late 2001, a hundred bucks or so. 1.13 thunderbird, with 96megs of SDRAM and a 2gig "bigfoot" 5.25 harddrive, and a Riva card with TV-out.(couldn't afford a monitor) It was to replace my old 400mhz celeron machine (that I got for free after recovering the harddrive from it, when my dad stuck a screwdriver in the power supply while forgetting to unplug it first (bad fan causing overheating)). So I gutted the 400 and stuck the parts in the 1.13t-bird.

In it's final incarnation I had that thing with a 80gig WD 8meg "special edition" harddrive, 768 megs of DDR ram, geforce2-gts video card, and a 1700+ OC'd to around 1.8ghz.

You can go out and get a 2000+ retail CPU from Newegg for less then 60 dollars and get yourself a great performing server.

One big tip: These boards got a bad rep by morons who were to cheap to go out and buy proper OC'ing-capable boards. In reality they are very fast performing (due to the integrated north/south bridge chip) OEM-style motherboard with no special features or capabilities.

They have 2 serious design flaws, the first one is a buggy IDE controller in some boards that will corrupt data if used in DMA mode, Linux kernels incorporated a fix in either 2.4.16 or 2.4.18 kernels (something like that).

The second one is that the integrated chipset's heatsink was afixed with a very crappy heatsink pad. If you have a old 486-style heatsink you can chop up a bit, or at least scrap off the pad off of the old one, then refix it with some heatsink epoxy glue then it will keep the motherboard much happier and increase stability.

Then you can probably run the thing 24/7 for the next couple years with little issues.

Cool, thanks. I'm not an overclocker so that isn't a problem

 

[drag]

heres HoneyX's guide to k7s5a and k7s5a Pro boards


He says the max you can get it is a 2600+ with 133mhz fsb, you can get bartons to go, but you'll have to unlock them. So maybe a mobile can work, but I wouldn't bet on it.

This guy knows his stuff, his hacked bios is what allows me FSB controls for non-standard speeds. Also the Cheepoman is another bios hacker that I think is more widely known for k7s5a.

 

[0roo0roo]

good stuff. but yea, 150-166mhz bus doesn't really work on the board. so you gotta unlock the chip or do socket pin mod to oc. a year ago i oc a 1800+@2.4ghz retail + ecs combo for 69bux total from frys. thatsbang for buck but its nothing for a beginner. barton... bah, just get a frys barton combo for cheap, its easier.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
good stuff. but yea, 150-166mhz bus doesn't really work on the board. so you gotta unlock the chip or do socket pin mod to oc. a year ago i oc a 1800+@2.4ghz retail + ecs combo for 69bux total from frys. thatsbang for buck but its nothing for a beginner. barton... bah, just get a frys barton combo for cheap, its easier.

Mine ran at 150 for over a month before I voluntarily put it back to stock.

 

[0roo0roo]

heh your lucky i guess. but the board doesn't have the multiplier for it so its o/cing everything pretty bad. not a good recipie for stability. 166 doesn't boot, known bug, u can switch in windows with software fsb.

only good way to oc is to change multiplier which i did still.. was good for the price.

 

[robcy]

While a Barton is not on the supported list due to the 166/200 fsb, they will work. Here is what you do. A Barton 2600+ is a 11.5x166 (1917mhz), it will boot up as 11.5x100(1150) go to bios and change the FSB to 133 so now your at 11.5x133 (1533mhz). There is a little program call SpeedFan and this can be placed on the start-up menu. Adjust it to do 166 or 200 (NOTE1), and when you boot up it will post at 11.5x133 (1533mhz) then when windows loads speedfan will adjust the FSB to 166 or 200. These SIS735/745 boards are stable, fast, and cheap. They also have the correct dividers for 166mhz and 200mhz fsb. They got a bad rap due to volume in which they where produced. I have two current system with K7S5A v1.0 one is a 2500+ Barton running 11x166 and the other is a 1700+ T-bred at 11x166 no issues. They bench better than VIA333/400 and the original NF, and are less than 5% behind NF2's

Note1- While the chipset cooler is fine for 166fsb, a good recommendation would be to apply Artic Silver. If you are planning on using a 200FSB CPU then you WILL NEED at copper sink with fan on the chipset.

 

[robcy]

Sorry forgot to add, that this works best with the stock BIOS. The Honey X has to tight memory timmings for a 166/200fsb, and only work if you have the really, really good ram like OCZ DDR3200 2-2-2-5, or somethiing similar.