Will a AMD x2 5000+ Heatsink and Fan work with a AMD Phenom 9750?

[jasonkimberson]

I have a Slimline HP desktop and want to upgrade the CPU to a AMD Phenom 9750. The computer itself comes with a x2 5000+ cpu with a motherboard that has an AM2 socket. I recently purchased a OEM Phenom 9750 cpu that didnt come with a fan or heat sink. Will the 5000+ fan and heatsink work with the 9750? If not where can i get a fan that will work and still fit in the low profile case?

Any help would be great, thanks!

 

[Rhoxed]

probably wont be good enough cooling, also make sure your MOBO can handle the 125W phenoms...

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Welcome to the Anandtech forums.

Try searching ebay if you decide you want a HS&F or if not, maybe on new egg.

Good Luck

 

[unr3al]

Imho speaking from experience, the stock AMD heatsinks are a lot better than those of Intel (if not acoustically, definitely performance-wise) and depending on the actual heat developed by the Phenom you might actually be able to use it.

I am not a Phenom user so I really can't say, but if you want to be on the safe side without spending a fortune, there are lots of aftermarket heatsinks which will do completely satisfactory at a reasonable price, if you aren't planning to overclock.

Here are a few examples, all under 40$:

Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835185125

CoolerMaster HyperTX2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835103031

Thermaltake CL-P0075
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835106055

Rosewill RCX-Z1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835200014

 

[jellyrole]

I used to have a Phenom 9500 with the stock HSF, and I was at 36c full load.

 

[error8]

I think the stock 5000+ cooler will work with the Phenom, but it will keep it a bit hot, depending mostly of your case ventilation too.
If AMD puts this cooler into the 6000+ cpus boxes and those are rated to 120W TDP, then it surely will work with your Phenom with 125W TDP.

 

[ther00kie16]

Originally posted by: error8
I think the stock 5000+ cooler will work with the Phenom, but it will keep it a bit hot, depending mostly of your case ventilation too.
If AMD puts this cooler into the 6000+ cpus boxes and those are rated to 120W TDP, then it surely will work with your Phenom with 125W TDP.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think AMD had different heatsinks for the X2 so the stock hsf is probably bundled with the 120W X2s, which means it should be fine for the Phenom.

 

[Gikaseixas]

if the one you have has the copper pipes you should be all set. AMD sometimes ships the copperless heatsink with 5000+ and those aren't good enough for Phenom's with 125W TDP

 

[SlowSpyder]

My Phenom 9850 came with the same cooler that many of the A64 dual cores use... the 4 heat pipe version. Some are just a 2 heat pipe version. My guess is that if your A64 used a 2 or 4 heatpipe OEM AMD cooler it will be good enough for the Phenom. Being that your PC is an HP, they may have used their own cooler and then it's anyone's guess. I know that the HP/Compaq desktops at work that use C2D's use their own HP/Compaq cooler, they do not use the Intel retail cooler. Does the cooler you have look like this cooler in this Ebay auction? If so it should be fine. If not... who knows.

 

[unr3al]

The Opteron 'sinks? Man I wish I had one of those! lol The desktop chips don't ship with them as far as I know. But I stand to be corrected because the biggest A64 I have worked with was the 90nm 5000+.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: unr3al
The Opteron 'sinks? Man I wish I had one of those! lol The desktop chips don't ship with them as far as I know. But I stand to be corrected because the biggest A64 I have worked with was the 90nm 5000+.

My socket 939 3000+ came with a simple aluminum cooler, no copper base, no heat pipes. My Opteron 165 came with the 2 heat pipe version of the cooler, it had a copper base and 2 copper heatpipes, just like the one in the auction I linked above your post. I bought an FX-60 cooler (that is what it was labeled as in an Ebay auction I bought it from) which was the exact same as the cooler I got with my Opteron 165, except it had a total of 4 heat pipes. My Phenom 9850 came with the same 4 heat pipe version cooler as well. they are usually pretty cheap on Ebay if you can find them, typically I want to say the gor for $10-$15ish.

 

[jasonkimberson]

Image of Inside of Computer with Fan


Found these pictures at new egg, bascially its what the fan and the system look like?

does that help?


And thanks for helping me out.


One thing i did notice was that all the CPU's they include with this system are 65w. For the latest model which still uses the same mobo, they picked the 9100e.

Mobo

 

[BlueAcolyte]

See those two brown things? Those are heatpipes. You should be fine.

 

[Rhoxed]

i wouldnt put a 125W cpu in that mobo

i doubt it would support it at all.

 

[jasonkimberson]

would anything bad happen? Or it just wouldnt power up?

 

[Rhoxed]

i have never done it, alot of reviews say it will blow the board.

 

[jasonkimberson]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed
i have never done it, alot of reviews say it will blow the board.

have any links where i could read about it at?

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed
i have never done it, alot of reviews say it will blow the board.

I think the blow out applies only for 125W quad core Phenoms, not for dual cores.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Rhoxed
i have never done it, alot of reviews say it will blow the board.

I think the blow out applies only for 125W quad core Phenoms, not for dual cores.

NO, It's all 125w chips Phenom or X2. if the board isn't designed handle the chips, it will blow.

this link is for the 780g boards, but i'm pretty sure it applies to all.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3279&p=2

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Good point... But I think the heatsink is sufficient, at least. IIRC, the power regulation on these boards can't keep up with the Phenom or x2 6400+, right?

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Good point... But I think the heatsink is sufficient, at least. IIRC, the power regulation on these boards can't keep up with the Phenom or x2 6400+, right?

that is basically correct, the chips draw more power than the boards can supply, tho there are 780g board now that will support those chips, I wouldn't try it with the board he currently has. Unless he plans on replacing it anyways.

 

[unr3al]

Okay, so if your motherboard manufacturer states that your board is Phenom ready and officially supports the X2 6400, you should be safe, right? Because thats what I have with my 690G ASUS. Some of the comments here have started bothering me... lol

 

[dawp]

690g, I wouldn't count on it since it an older chipset

 

[dawp]

Unr3al, looks like you in luck, checked the ASUS website and it does show support for the 125w chips:

http://support.asus.com/cpusup...us&model=M2A-VM%20HDMI