TBirds seem to definitly be 'luck of the draw' - some claim the blue ones (Dresden fab'ed copper interconnect cores) overclock better <shrug> who knows for sure? I do know that I have a green core TBird 800 that does 900 easily, and will do 950 with extra voltage. 1G posts with lots of voltage (1.85) but won't load Windows. I have good, but not awesome cooling. Point is, don't count on more than 100MHz overclock ...