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Will 970 prices drop?

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I'm not sure how much traction this spec scandal has. I really don't think it's not a minor omission. I was seriously thinking about getting a 970 before all this went down. How much (if any) will the price of a GTX 970 drop? I'm looking for as many opinions on this as possible. Was looking at a 290X last night after a couple of weeks researching the different models/brands of the 970.
 
I got my EVGA970SSC yesterday... it's still setting in the box. I'm debating returning it... for 2 reasons: I expect the retail price of the 970's to drop, maybe not huge, but some, because demand for it will go down. This issue will also affect the resale value of the 970 as well. The other reason was... this is going to be a 2-3 year card for me, I don't know how the weirdo 3.5GB memory issue will pan out going into the future.

The 970 wasn't the best value already... the alternative is to sink even more money into a 980... an even worse value/performance card.
 
IMO, nope. 970 is still a awesome card. debate about that, happening in other threads though.

This is a great price on this card. It sold near/at 700.00 for along time.
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Why such a huge drop on the 290(x)? According to the chart... that's a 50% price drop? That's astounding...
 
Might be some element of stock clearance too? The 3xx stuff isn't that far off and AMD's market share seemingly (a bit oddly) wasn't doing that brilliantly even before the 9xx stuff arrived so its possible.
 
Charlie98 said:
The 970 wasn't the best value already... the alternative is to sink even more money into a 980... an even worse value/performance card.
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The alternative is getting a 290 or 290x for the same or less money and getting the same performance. Either that or just using your old card until the spring when the new ones come out
 
Doubt it. nVidia force is strong. Maybe a $10-20 discount, maybe an occasional rebate in a month or two. Trying to remember the only time nVidia drops prices is when they introduce a new product or when AMD comes along with a really strong competitor. Neither is happening until AMD 380x/390x hits the street.
 
Doubtful. At the end of the day, the GTX 970 still offers the same $/perf ratio it did at launch. If the new driver improves the speed of the 500MB portion, then it will perform even better.
 
fleshconsumed said:
Doubt it. nVidia force is strong. Maybe a $10-20 discount, maybe an occasional rebate in a month or two. Trying to remember the only time nVidia drops prices is when they introduce a new product or when AMD comes along with a really strong competitor. Neither is happening until AMD 380x/390x hits the street.
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The force is strong lol, but I'm looking at selling my 970's and I'm still losing almost $100 per card once you factor in fleabay, paypal, shipping, and sales taxes. Got lucky and snagged a used 290x reference for $220 shipped so I'm partway to my 290x CF. I already have a Corsair HG10/H80 to cool it.
 
I have a feeling there are a huge number of potential buyers who are not even aware of the issue and are not big forum dwellers. So from the existing reviews, sales could still maintain momentum for a while.
 
amenx said:
I have a feeling there are a huge number of potential buyers who are not even aware of the issue and are not big forum dwellers. So from the existing reviews, sales could still maintain momentum for a while.
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Anyone who buys a $350+ video card is a techie and definitely keeps up with this stuff. If not then they own a console.
 
amenx said:
I have a feeling there are a huge number of potential buyers who are not even aware of the issue and are not big forum dwellers. So from the existing reviews, sales could still maintain momentum for a while.
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You're right. I know people here think that everyone follows GPU/hardware news, but there are a LOT of users on reddit/neogaf who are gamers first. A lot of them don't even really understand the issue at all (most from reading) and a lot are still recommending the GTX 970 or even just recommending people to step up to the GTX 980.

Considering how many people are switching to purchasing a GTX 980 since the GTX 970 is "gimped" (in their eyes), there is no reason for Nvidia to lower price on GTX 970 and make it a good deal.

It's not dropping in price.
 
Ah! A thread for price-cut vampires like myself!

I've been thinking about that.

Without starting a political flap -- knowing that a former Secretary of State will AGAIN testify before Congress on the issue -- it seems like Benghazi.

Either the flap over the spec will "stick," or it will only amount to a hilla-beans. And the structure of the market for graphics cards has a lot to do with "sticky prices." This is parallel to Intel's ability to fix the price of a CPU at a certain level or higher until the product is "out of stock" and no longer sold by resellers.

There are going to be at two competing effects among potential buyers and consumers per the 970. On one side, a chicken-little component will "flee" the 970 to an AMD card, or they will spend more on a 980. This latter decision will be affected by their "budget-line" and "preference" in indifference trade-offs between a graphics card and "all other s***."

Another group may see the publicity, view several performance reviews, examine their need (present and future) for 4K and other things, and jump on the bandwagon. So, like the "substitution" effect in the classical economics model, it can cut both ways.

Ultimately, NVidia and the card-makers are going to exert some pricing control from their end.

I can hope, but I'll only hold my breath before so long.
 
Doing a quick check on Amazon and ebay.... Nope. The "new" prices are about the same. The "used" prices are higher. No effect. With no real competition in regards to new hardware until Q2/3, I don't think they're going to do anything out of the ordinary.
 
Pneumothorax said:
The force is strong lol, but I'm looking at selling my 970's and I'm still losing almost $100 per card once you factor in fleabay, paypal, shipping, and sales taxes. Got lucky and snagged a used 290x reference for $220 shipped so I'm partway to my 290x CF. I already have a Corsair HG10/H80 to cool it.
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I don't doubt that anyone selling their card on ebay is going to lose close to $100 compared to the new price. First there is "used" depreciation, then there is 10% paypal/ebay fee, then there is shipping, and then insurance and signature confirmation to protect yourself against ebay fraudsters. It all adds up to quite a bit. However, this will have no effect on the new retail pricing. As I said, nVidia is the Apple of the videocards, their products are always the best which is why they cost more. :sneaky:
 
Charlie98 said:
Why such a huge drop on the 290(x)? According to the chart... that's a 50% price drop? That's astounding...
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As delonm said the 970 happened which makes me wonder what AMD will do about this? I have to imagine they're pretty mad about recent 970 spec changes. I don't expect the 970 to drop unless Nvidia is forced to compensate and the compensation is a refund (not a full one).
 
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Eymar said:
As delonm said the 970 happened which makes me wonder what AMD will do about this? I have to imagine they're pretty mad about recent 970 spec changes.
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They have no need to be mad. Lots of people will buy a 290 as long as their games run fine on it.
 
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