Will 4:3 TV's work Correctly after 2006 Changeover?

[TheeeChosenOne]

Since the FCC will change signale to High Definition 16:9, will today's 4:3 TV's have black bars on them on top and bottom?

I understand that there will be a converter in place in 2006. But will this converter only allow 4:3 TV's to watch HD signals OR will it fix the black bar issue as well????

If this is the case that the black bar issue is unfixable after 2006, then doesn't it make sense to buy HD or Non-HD wide-screen sets today to save money?????.................................

 

[Mutilator]

The blackbars at the top and bottom aren't a HDTV problem... they're a older 4:3 set problem. If you put a 16:9 image on a 4:3 set then you get bars. I'm sure some of the boxes will probably have a stretch mode where they'll stretch the image up and down. Instead of us widescreen TV guys having wide fat people you 4:3 analog guys will have tall skinny people.

If you're going to buy a new TV today then buy the widescreen HDTV and live with the horizontal stretching. It's worth it when you can just change the channel to a true HD channel.

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

Isn't HD signal in 2006 16:9?

Will the promised new 2006 set-top converter boxes eliminate the wide screen black bars for 4:3 sets? Is this feasible?

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne
Isn't HD signal in 2006 16:9?

Will the promised new 2006 set-top converter boxes eliminate the wide screen black bars for 4:3 sets? Is this feasible?

It is feasible, but only as a "Stretch" or "Zoom" feature like he mentioned. My DVD player has that feature so that if you watch a film in widescreen you can "Zoom" and make it almost full screen.

amish

 

[conjur]

1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

wrong, hd is inherntly 16x9

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

No...there will be a mix of 4:3 and 16:9. Just read the article at that link.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

wrong, hd is inherntly 16x9

Are you sure? I've got a 43 inch Sony HD projection television....
4:3, not 16:9

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

wrong, hd is inherntly 16x9

Are you sure? I've got a 43 inch Sony HD projection television....
4:3, not 16:9

HD programming is 16:9. If you watch HD material on your 4:3 set you will see a letterboxed image.

 

[RossMAN]

This is good to know, guess our next major TV purchase will be after 2006.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

wrong, hd is inherntly 16x9

Are you sure? I've got a 43 inch Sony HD projection television....
4:3, not 16:9

HD programming is 16:9. If you watch HD material on your 4:3 set you will see a letterboxed image.

Technically, this is correct as 480p is not considered to be "HDTV". That being said, I bet a lot of broadcasts will be 480p after 2006, which would mean 4:3 material.

 

[DrPizza]

Right. For some reason, I was thinking that Amish was referring to the televisions, not the programming.
I stand corrected... 4:3 HDTV's exist, but HD programming is 16:9
(but then again, I own some 4:3 dvd's.....)

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: conjur
1) The transition is to DTV, not HDTV. 4:3 DTV programming will still remain. Not every network will be doing HD for every program.
2) It will be later than 2006 before the analog switchover is complete. Although, the FCC is not being that kind with slackers.
3) There will be a market for converters to keep those old 4:3 TVs going.

Read Me

So basically, HD programming in 2006 and beyond will be in 4:3 dimension?

That would be great then as HD upgradeable tvs in 4:3 dimension will not lose screen size (i.e. bars). Correct?

Right or wrong?.........

wrong, hd is inherntly 16x9

Are you sure? I've got a 43 inch Sony HD projection television....
4:3, not 16:9

HD programming is 16:9. If you watch HD material on your 4:3 set you will see a letterboxed image.

Technically, this is correct as 480p is not considered to be "HDTV". That being said, I bet a lot of broadcasts will be 480p after 2006, which would mean 4:3 material.

Even then, not necessarily. And, actually, I bet there will be very little 480p programming (other than FOX Widescreen). FOX does some shows in 480p and they are 16:9. You will mostly see 480i for most networks but it will be digital and not analog. And, it does look noticeably better. No snow, no ghosting.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
This is good to know, guess our next major TV purchase will be after 2006.

The way you buy stuff and you're putting off an HD set for 3 more years? Go for it now! Heck, 43" HDTV 16:9 sets are about, what, $1500?