Wildcat VP760: any comparison vs. std vid cards?

jasonpetras

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Hey all,

I needed to be able to use two monitors for what I do I work. So I asked my head IT person to hook me up. A little while later he came back, took out my GeForce2 and replaced it with a VP760. Now everything looks like he just replaced my computer with a 386. 2D performance is just messed up. Now, I am exaduarting a bit with the 386 quip. But if I toggle between two windows that are mostly full screen (1600x1200) the window refresh is noticible. It takes about an 1/8th second with word or excell and so and up to a second when its a webpage. To make things worse, in the program that I use Design View by Mentor Graphics, when I scroll around a schematic, it chunks along at a frame a second. Its driving me bonkers.

I have downloaded the latest drivers and scrolled through all of the optimizing settings, but I can't seem to make any headway. The drivers do have some "optimized" settings for a number of different types of workstation programs (i.e. solidworks, MAYA, microstation, SOFTIMAGE, and a number of CAD programs) but nothing for the CAD that I use. So I am really sitting here baffled that a modern, $300 card can stink so bad at 2D rendering. Especially when the GF2 hummed along so well.

So, my video expert friends, I ask for a three bits of advice. First, are there any good comparisons that include this card with more mainstream chipsets like from nVidia and ATI? Second, does the "optimized" settings that the Wildcat provides actually produce a real world benefit over the nVidia's and the ATI's. Third, do the ATI and nVidia cards with the DVI and VGA outputs actually provide dual monitor support?

Thank you all in advance!
~ your befuddled friend Jason
 
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The ATi FireGL4 supports dual digital panels at 1280x1024 each. I'm not sure about the FireGL X1, I think it supports dual digital panels at 1600x1200 each.

The nVIDIA Ti4600 (in Gainward trim) supports dual digital panels at 1600x1200 each. I'm not sure about the Quadro4, I think it is the same as the Gainward with respect to digital panel support.

The Matrox Parhelia supports dual digital panels at 1600x1200 each.

I'm surprised that the Wildcat would perform so poorly, although the VP760 is in the lower part of their line. THG has a review of a Wildcat where it seemed to do pretty well.

I don't know why the reviewers never seem to put these "professional" cards through the same tests as the gaming cards. I, for one, would be very curious to see how the "big boys" fare in the gamers' arena.
 

jasonpetras

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Helio,

I just finished reading Tom's review on the board, and it does seem gravy for the 3D CAD guys, but I'm just a lowly EE. No 3D rendering for me. Boards are still done a layer at a time. Although I have not talked with Mentor about the rendering engine they use, I would be surprised if it was anything more than just raytracing or the like.

So, according to what you said, I would be golden to use a Ti4600 with two monitors. So whats the big deal with these workstation cards? Is it really worth it? I would prefer not to pay any premium for something I am not using.

Any other tidbits?
 
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Originally posted by: jasonpetras
So whats the big deal with these workstation cards? Is it really worth it? I would prefer not to pay any premium for something I am not using.
IMHO, the manufacturers charge what the market will bear for their cards. The fact is that the workstation market will bear a much higher price. Hence the manufacturers recoup their development costs from the workstation cards -- the new GeForce FX appears to be an extreme example of this philosophy.

If performance was satisfactory before (using the GeForce 2) then I would venture to say that you would be very pleased with the GeForce4 Ti4600 in dual-DVI configuration. These cards are getting to be hard to find, though.

It might be worth your time to get a recommendation from Mentor Graphics -- surely they can tell you what video cards perform well in their application!
 

jasonpetras

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Helio,

Yeah, the marketing machine definitely seems to be in play here.

I did get the thing to work at "full speed" for a while last night. I changed the color depth to from 32 bits to 16 and back to 32 and all was happy.... until I rebooted the computer.... now all is in software-render-land. So something must be seriously hosed in the drivers. I've since ripped them out and started anew, but it still sucks.

Wildcat = Worthless!